No thankfully I dont have vertical problems at the moment- thats not what this is about. I know there have been numerous threads on setup, technique, tuning etc to eliminate vertical from groups at long range. But do others find there seems to be vertical encountered more so in a fast twist and long for caliber projectiles than a slower twist and shorter for caliber bullets. Im no physics scholar, but is this correct and why would it occur? Would like to hear peoples experiences and opinions.