Got my V3 Auto Trickler with auto throw set up and running and cannot believe what a time saver it is running at 12 to 13 sec. a charge. With that said does that sound like I am in the ballpark for proper speed? I have noticed that most of my charges are either spot on or -.02 gr's. and if I adjust slightly to get more exact charges with fewer under -.02 I start to get a few overs + .02 Do you think I should leave it where I may have a few more under charges -.02 and almost zero overs? -.02 is on kernel which I can easily pick out of and old powder pan with tweezers or try to get it closer and just dump the few overs back and run it again, were talking 12 seconds ? One other question do those of you who have purchased the area419 Lexan top could you tell me if it is really a lot sturdier? I'm thinking being able to see through the is also an added advantage.
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I just got mine so I am not going to comment on the average speed and accuracy but I will tell you the top is worth it’s weight in gold. I like to see what’s going on and it is rock solid.
Turbulent Turtle
F-TR competitor
You're fine at 10-12 seconds. I get some .02 undershots also and I have some kernels on the mat next to the unit where I can pick up one with plastic tweezers and throw it in the cup.
I also have the Area 419 Lexan cover and I like it a lot.
I also have the Area 419 Lexan cover and I like it a lot.
Thank you for the info. Always good to hear from people with actual hands on experience. So far I'm extremely pleased with the setup. 
You can adjust the speed of the trickler by adjusting its foot. Screw it in to slow the trickler down. It sounds like you have it very close to correct, but a little fine tuning might help.
I agree, I'm very close will adjust it a very little at a time. Thanks
powderbrake
Gold $$ Contributor
The V3 instructions say to adjust the trickler to 0.5 gr per second. I did this by running the trickler for 10 seconds, and adjusting until I got 5 gr. The tube was slightly uphill after I did this adjustment.
After I did this adjustment, a 30 to 32 gr load of Varget took about 10 seconds. This adjustment was the most effective way to lower the time to complete a measure of powder.
Remember that the scale measures to an resolution of + - .02 grains. So when it reads RIGHT ON the value, it is SOMEWHERE within +-.02 gr, and you have no way of knowing the exact weight without another scale that is 10X more accurate, so I believe adding or subtracting a piece of powder to get it to read exact is a waste of time. I believe that anything within + or - .02 of the setpoint is acceptable.
.02 gr, (or 1 piece of Varget), is EXCEPTIONAL accuracy, particularly when compared to scales that read in .1 increments. Heck, my sight picture isn't always good enough to tell the difference in bullet placement that 1 piece of Varget makes.
After I did this adjustment, a 30 to 32 gr load of Varget took about 10 seconds. This adjustment was the most effective way to lower the time to complete a measure of powder.
Remember that the scale measures to an resolution of + - .02 grains. So when it reads RIGHT ON the value, it is SOMEWHERE within +-.02 gr, and you have no way of knowing the exact weight without another scale that is 10X more accurate, so I believe adding or subtracting a piece of powder to get it to read exact is a waste of time. I believe that anything within + or - .02 of the setpoint is acceptable.
.02 gr, (or 1 piece of Varget), is EXCEPTIONAL accuracy, particularly when compared to scales that read in .1 increments. Heck, my sight picture isn't always good enough to tell the difference in bullet placement that 1 piece of Varget makes.
I'd start weighing every component if 1 kernel would make a difference. It might if I did but I'm not. I went down the same path, though. After awhile, I just took what it gave me (always + or - .02) and loaded it. Saw zero change in accuracy or SD's. Way more variables to fret over.
The 419 lid is the only upgrade I've done and I'd say it's worth it.
The 419 lid is the only upgrade I've done and I'd say it's worth it.
Thanks for all of the responses guys, really appreciate the feedback. Some excellent points to consider. The Lexan top is definitely in my future.
Turbulent Turtle
F-TR competitor
You young whippersnappers are all the same. Don't you know that if you can see it, you have to fix it? Let's say my target weight is 40.00gr. If my V3 throws 40.02, I have to take out the kernel. If it throws 39.98, I have to throw in a kernel. The scale is showing it, you have to obey the scale or else you will go berserk in time.
After all, a charge like 40.00 represents 2000 kernels of Varget. Having an extra one or being one short means you're over or under by 1 kernel out of 2,000. How can you rely on such a load for accuracy?
We're talking 0.05% here!The AutoTrickler is programmed to stop dispensing when the scale reports one of three numbers: your target, target - 0.02, and any number greater than target. So when properly adjusted and dispensing a powder that weighs ~0.02gr per kernel, the vast majority of throws will of course be dead on or light by 0.02gr.
With a lighter-per-kernel powder you'll get less dead on target throws. With a heavier powder you get some overthrows.
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