Usps insurance

[Evan]

aka stolen

This may be an important thing to emphasize to the postal inspector and maybe a police report. A serialized firearm was stolen in transit.

 

[JFrank]

Well, usps finally lost a barreled action. This is the first time they have ever lost anything I have shipped. It was insured for $1500. We submitted the claim with as much evidence and reciepts as possible. Denied, they want to gove me $100. Appeal was aslo denied. We spent $18k in shipping last year. Insurance is almost half of that. I dont see a point in insurance going forward. I will probably start self insuring and just eat this one.

Bummer.
.It may still show up. I had an expensive item take a detour to Porta Rico before finally arriving.

 

[LCazador]

I would ask for the Postal Inspector ( phone #) for the area you are in. Let them hopefully take a whirl at it. When I was working for the P.O. the last thing any postmaster wanted was to get a visit/telephone call from the postal inspectors. Worth a try.

This did not work for me when I lost a firearm shipped from my dealer. I got everyone involved, postal, inspector, ATF, local police, and they never paid or followed through on loss.

 

[Alex Wheeler]

I dont have time to sue, it would cost me more in the long run. This has been a couple months so i doubt it will turn up. I have filed a lost stolen report with atf. Just a warning to everyone. We all could have saved a lot of money on this bs scam

 

[Tucker65]

I shipped a high dollar item through UPS and insured it for the full replacement cost. The item came up missing and I was told to file a claim with UPS. They were very helpful and all they needed was a receipt for the cost of the item. It was an item I made in my side business shop so I gave them a copy of the invoice and within a week I had a check along with a refund for the shipping cost.

Maybe I was one of the lucky ones but it turned out great for me and my customer. The funny thing about the whole situation is the the item eventuality showed up at the customers shop about a month later. Looked like the wooden crate I shipped it in had fallen off the back of a truck but for the most part the item was still usable. Not a word from UPS about it either.

 

[acloco]

File a stolen firearm report with your local PD/Sheriff. Ask your county DA and State AG to step in.

 

[Coyotefurharvester]

I wonder how it works, felons handling firearms shipments?

 

[FURMAN]

I do like the idea of setting aside the cost of the insurance and just dealing with it out of pocket if/when something gets lost.

 

[Dusty Stevens]

Man that sucks for everybody involved. Make sure its listed as stolen in the nics system

 

[Alex Wheeler]

I do like the idea of setting aside the cost of the insurance and just dealing with it out of pocket if/when something gets lost.

Thats what is going to happen.

 

[Alex Wheeler]

Man that sucks for everybody involved. Make sure its listed as stolen in the nics system

It is. Lucky its a standard no turn chamber. If it was an odd ball or tightneck, who ever stole it would probably blow it up and sue me.

 

[NateHaler]

More and more vendors, especially the smaller ones I like to use when possible, are listing their shipping cost (typically flat rate) and then insurance is an extra. And now 3rd party companies are trying to sell insurance and tracking outside of the typical shipping systems. And product protection insurance is being pushed by Amazone, Home Depot, etc. And it's all a scam. It's false assurance, because if you put any value on your time, you will not want to deal with what it takes to finally get paid on a claim. The USPS is a horrible organization, that still manages, somehow, to deliver 95%+ of what they are supposed to. But the people who built and ran the USPS up until the past couple of decades would be ashamed to see what it has become.

I waited 44 days (yep, 6 weeks +) for an order of various items (scope rings, dies, misc.) from a vendor in Missouri. When the 'package' finally showed up, it was on the ground (instead of in our mailbox where it would easily fit). It was a portion of a box, with the address label on this portion, with a piece of packing paper inside, nothing else, and all of that was inside a plastic bag. Because the PO didn't want that piece of paper to fall out maybe. Priority Mail. What a joke.

$458.00, 44 days wait, for nothing. PO says they received it that way. Vendor is dragging their feet, saying "are you SURE the box was empty?" I filed a credit card dispute, which instantly refunds the purchase price, and it's up to the vendor to prove they did deliver me the goods.

But it's all a hassle. And time is our most valuable asset.

 

[JimPag]

Well, usps finally lost a barreled action. This is the first time they have ever lost anything I have shipped. It was insured for $1500. We submitted the claim with as much evidence and reciepts as possible. Denied, they want to gove me $100. Appeal was aslo denied. We spent $18k in shipping last year. Insurance is almost half of that. I dont see a point in insurance going forward. I will probably start self insuring and just eat this one.

Alex. I have never shipped anything no matter what it was and paid the extra for any insurance because even the people at the post office will tell you that is a waste of money because the postal service won't do anything but FK u over.

 

[bugman]

Less than two years ago I needed to ship a Belgian Browning Hi Power to a buyer in Florida. I rarely ship sidearms. I was surprised to find out that due to the brandon effect, only FedEX was shipping pistols. When I presented at the FedEx main hub I was told that pistols could only be shipped via Overnight Express....and that would cost me over 90 dollars for that small package.

After a lot of bitching I was told that the reason for the overnight requirement was EMPLOYEE theft. After I paid, the pistol was placed in a locked shipping container, and that container remained locked until the pistol was delivered to an FFL at the destination. In other words I had to pay 90 bucks to insure that FedEX employees would not steal my firearm.

 

[Jdne5b]

What was the reason(s) for denial? They disagree with value or responsibility ? I got paid on a lost flat rate box of bullets once. It wasn’t even insured for the full amount, only the base $50 insurance included in flat rate.

 

[Alex Wheeler]

They didnt give a reason

 

[Brad Johnson]

Alex, that's my opinion. Why insure when they're not going to pay? I send UPS if possible.

UPS does the same thing. Insurance is a joke .

 

[LVLAaron]

I thought UPS lost one I shipped overnight somewhere. No update for several days... They told me to chill out. I told them I'll call the local sheriffs office to come find the missing firearm and file a report. They found it an hour later. Might be worth that angle.

 

[BlueWater]

Well, usps finally lost a barreled action. This is the first time they have ever lost anything I have shipped. It was insured for $1500. We submitted the claim with as much evidence and reciepts as possible. Denied, they want to gove me $100. Appeal was aslo denied. We spent $18k in shipping last year. Insurance is almost half of that. I dont see a point in insurance going forward. I will probably start self insuring and just eat this one.

My local USPS drivers and/or staff are thieves. I've had a number of packages where a claimed delivery was made to the LOCKED BOX ... yet on several occasions it wasn't there, not even when I was at the box moments later or checked some minutes after that. Nice little cottage industry they've got running. Nice job if you can get it, I suppose, and one is an unsavory, no-integrity type of person. Momma must be very proud.

Gotta love thievery. I believe in some places hands were lopped off, for such things. Perhaps incidence of such would dramatically drop, if the practice were revived. (There's a thought.)

 

[nakneker]

A couple years ago I sold a very expensive Japanese chef knife, 5.2k worth. I sent it priority to Texas from Arizona. Knife didn’t show. The buyer kept following the tracking and went to his post office and complained without results. Then he went to the last known location where the knife had been logged which was 35 miles away from his PO. He raised a royal fuss there. Three days later he got a call that knife had been found, their explanation was that it had fallen behind some shelving. He drove and picked it up immediately. They said they packaging had been destroyed which was impossible, when I ship those knives I pack them up to be bomb proof, three layers of fiber packing tape over the entire box. The knife was rusty, it had been used and it had been wet and neglected. He was able to restore it to good condition but we pretty much assumed an employee had stolen it and the post master at the location it was found applied some heat making someone nervous or guilty. In the meantime the insurance claim was going no where.

It puts a seller in a bad position, your opening yourself up to problems like this when selling and shipping but I’m not sure what you do for a solution.