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Upside-Down Shooter

snert said:
Now I know why I avoid "official" matches. Sheesh! :'(
I agree 100%
Show up at a match and win doing something different and the cranky old "members only" people will pick apart what you do until you just leave or drink the cool aid and do it just like them.
 
I had a great weekend. Took my 11 year old grand son shooting .He found a great mentor. My hair brain $50.00 trick worked way better then expected. Got pictures on the forum ' Had many of complement. Lots&LOTS of crying and moaning Even got DQ What better 76 year Birthday present can you get then that.
Larry
 
dmoran said:
Larry -

I've only read that you won score (later DQ'd) with your "contraption", but no mention of what the scores were or the group sizes.
What were the scores and group sizes?

Thanks ahead of time
Donovan

Here ya go


http://www.manateegunclub.com/index_files/Page812.htm
 
The new 600 yd range at Manatee has been holding Registered 300yd F/Class matches for the last 2 winter seasons. Previous matches were held on the public range. Now that the 200yd BR range has been pushed out to 600yds, and talk of electronic targets, it is thinking of 600yd F/Class matches. Everyone is invited to shoot these F/Class matches. Rules to these matches are pretty simple and can be found online (NRA F Class rules). That brake will have to go though. The best way to learn the rules is to observe one of these matches and talk to the shooters and check out their equipment.
 
More than the brake for F Class. Think it's an 11 lb rule. You have to lay on your belly without falling asleep or choking out and suffocating because your belly is too fat. Then, after shooting, you actually have to get back up.

How did you have F Class matches without pits? My brother-in-law goes to Manatee in the winter and practices. Then he leaves to shoot at Malibar or elsewhere. Never heard of any matches there other than short-range benchrest.

We do need those electronic targets.
 
dmoran said:
James - Since his results were omitted, thanks but no thanks..... lol


Larry - I am very curious and would really like to know !.!.! <> (PM me if you would rather)

Thanks
[/quote it was a 48 with one x
 
dmoran said:
James - Since his results were omitted, thanks but no thanks..... lol


Larry - I am very curious and would really like to know !.!.! <> (PM me if you would rather)

Thanks
hi score was 48 with one x total score was 181 with 2 xx Larry
 
CaptainMal said:
More than the brake for F Class. Think it's an 11 lb rule. You have to lay on your belly without falling asleep or choking out and suffocating because your belly is too fat. Then, after shooting, you actually have to get back up.

How did you have F Class matches without pits? My brother-in-law goes to Manatee in the winter and practices. Then he leaves to shoot at Malibar or elsewhere. Never heard of any matches there other than short-range benchrest.

We do need those electronic targets.


its 18 lbs for F- TR Class and 22lbs for f-open class. Without pits...Drive down to the target take them off the frame and score them in the shade. I,m kinda skinny so I can't advise on the belly thing.
 
My concern is how far are you willing to go to minimize the shooter in rifle competition. I am assuming this device is to enhance the rifles tracking ability. Yet scores of Registered Competition shooters are continually breaking records with equipment that meets a set standard to create an even playing field. They expended the time, money and energy to "figure it out" in order to succeed. The Bulletin last week had an article about the Tracking Point device. Is this where you believe the ultimate in precision riflery should lead us to......point the weapon in the general direction and simply pull the trigger and score a guaranteed "X"?
Hunter Class competition flourished here in the Northeast for several decades....until they allowed use of custom actions.....today it is almost non-existent in this region of the country as HC shooters either gave up on the equipment race or opted to shoot VFS (heavier guns, unlimited optics)......IMHO they transferred emphasis from shooter skill to equipment weakening the sport and limiting the number of potential competitors.
My oldest grandson plays little league (12-15 age group). They are now allowed to use high tech aluminum bats that are so superior to when my boy's played that a in typical game there will be 3-4 out of the park homeruns whereas 20 years ago there may have been 3-4 for the entire season throughout the whole league (same ballparks BTW).
Where should technology take us? I always gain the most fun from an endeavor when I work really hard on something to achieve a certain goal. It's a great feeling looking back at a match where I had done really well knowing "I" was the biggest factor in getting it done.
 
LHSmith said:
My concern is how far are you willing to go to minimize the shooter in rifle competition. I am assuming this device is to enhance the rifles tracking ability. Yet scores of Registered Competition shooters are continually breaking records with equipment that meets a set standard to create an even playing field. They expended the time, money and energy to "figure it out" in order to succeed. The Bulletin last week had an article about the Tracking Point device. Is this where you believe the ultimate in precision riflery should lead us to......point the weapon in the general direction and simply pull the trigger and score a guaranteed "X"?
Hunter Class competition flourished here in the Northeast for several decades....until they allowed use of custom actions.....today it is almost non-existent in this region of the country as HC shooters either gave up on the equipment race or opted to shoot VFS (heavier guns, unlimited optics)......IMHO they transferred emphasis from shooter skill to equipment weakening the sport and limiting the number of potential competitors.
My oldest grandson plays little league (12-15 age group). They are now allowed to use high tech aluminum bats that are so superior to when my boy's played that a in typical game there will be 3-4 out of the park homeruns whereas 20 years ago there may have been 3-4 for the entire season throughout the whole league (same ballparks BTW).
Where should technology take us? I always gain the most fun from an endeavor when I work really hard on something to achieve a certain goal. It's a great feeling looking back at a match where I had done really well knowing "I" was the biggest factor in getting it done.
Hi tech Equipment or money has ruined all sports. But in the shooting sport if the would put a time limit between shot technology wouldn't matter. Like that would ever happen. Larry
 
^^^^^ Not sure what you mean, but as far as I know all shooting sports are timed events.
All I am saying is, how are you going to be judged in the records of Benchrest history if you don't follow basic equipment rules - which all three organizations are in basic agreement. Your only hope is to submit to Guiness and hope they accept it. ::)
 
LHSmith said:
^^^^^ Not sure what you mean, but as far as I know all shooting sports are timed events.
All I am saying is, how are you going to be judged in the records of Benchrest history if you don't follow basic equipment rules - which all three organizations are in basic agreement. Your only hope is to submit to Guiness and hope they accept it. ::)
Personal I don't care . But if they had time between shot the best shooter would win not equipment. TONY BOYER proved that for years. Larry
 
^^^^^ Please explain. TB has the same time (7 minutes) to complete a record target as every other competitor. He wins because every aspect of shooting BR is 2nd nature to him through millions of rounds put down range in all kinds of conditions.
His rear bag is ancient, his favorite HV gun is ancient, he hasn't embraced tuner technology.
 
The rest is cool. Can the grandson shoot as good as the granddaughter I shot with? The rifle doesn't look like a Savage to me!
 
savagedasher said:
Hi tech Equipment or money has ruined all sports. But in the shooting sport if the would put a time limit between shot technology wouldn't matter. Like that would ever happen. Larry

I think that you are saying, if a shooter had to wait a certain amount of time between shots...? If that is what you are saying i agree.

If people had to wait 30 second's between shots I think there would be a big difference in scores/ group size for F-class and bench rest.

I would like the NRA to implement that for a year just to see the effects. I believe it would make people a better wind reader in the long run too.
 
Benchrest is about the smallest groups possible. If that is not what your into then Benchrest is not for you. You find the sport that fits you best. If you want rules to benefit your personal style of shooting then you need to start your own organisation.
 
zfastmalibu said:
Benchrest is about the smallest groups possible. If that is not what your into then Benchrest is not for you. You find the sport that fits you best. If you want rules to benefit your personal style of shooting then you need to start your own organisation.

YES SIR! ;D
 

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