UPS SHIPPING CHARGES
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So sad of a policy. No reason for it.
XTR
F-TR obssessed shooting junkie
handguns have been over night for as long as I can remember. If you look up the UPS tariff/terms and condition of service it requires that handguns be shipped next day air and it allows allows UPS, at their discretion, to require any firearm to be shipped next day air.
jepp2
Gold $$ Contributor
Two options to pay less than the overnight option for handguns:
1. Use shipmygun.com This is a branch of Bud's Guns and they have a provision to allow you to ship your handgun 2'nd day via UPS.
2. Use your local FFL. I use mine and ship using USPS Priority mail. Yes, I do have to pay my FFL a $35 fee for their service + the actual cost of a medium Flat Rate Priority box. But I'm still just right at $50.
Jdne5b
Gold $$ Contributor
Wish more dealers would sign up for Shipmygun.
tthomp302
Gold $$ Contributor
The lower is the only thing legally considered a firearm. You can get uppers shipped straight to your door. But in your example, it would be considered sending a firearm since you are shipping the lower as well.
The reason is that the handguns are easily stolen from the much slower ground operations. I worked for UPS when this was implemented. UPS had a bunch of handguns stolen by an organized theft ring. This was UPS’s best solution at the time. It wasn’t a good idea IMO but that’s where the air only for handguns came from.
jepp2
Gold $$ Contributor
They only stole handguns there were being shipped by non-licensed individuals? Because the overnight does not apply to FFL's.
Because UPS cannot control internal theft, the only resolution they have is to implement policies that move the most-likely to be stolen items out of the terminal as fast as possible. Of course, the customer is the one that absorbs the costs for UPS failures. Theft is rampant throughout the UPS distribution system - and not just of firearms.
Theft is only a part of the issue.
Shooter13
Gold $$ Contributor
Actually there is a reason, think about it, the longer it is in the hands of someone else the more likely it is to get stolen. This is the part that is sad, they are just minimizing the amount of time it could "wander off".
I believe they were stealing handguns being shipped by S&W but I’m not positive. Yes there is some theft issues at all of the major shippers. Gangs target them by members getting jobs and working from the inside. The Atlanta , Chicago and the California hubs have been repeatedly infiltrated that I’m aware of. Anywhere with strong gangs are vulnerable.
Ranger188
Silver $$ Contributor
This. ^^^
This keeps it in a least amount of hands as possible, for the shortest time also.
In my building a FFL dealer was stealing guns.
Wasn't doing very smartly, he got caught and went to the big house for a bit.
Jdne5b
Gold $$ Contributor
The law says you must notify the shipper that it is a firearm and cannot ship a handgun USPS unless you are licensed. Then UPS/Fedex can set their own rules.
From ATF:
Any person may ship firearms directly to a licensee in any State, with no requirement for another licensee to ship the firearm. However, handguns and other concealable firearms are not mailable through the United States Postal Service and must be shipped via private common or contract carrier (18 U.S.C. § 1715). The USPS and private common or contract carriers may also have additional restrictions on firearms shipments by unlicensed persons.
In addition, federal law requires that the carrier be notified that the shipment contains a firearm or ammunition, prohibits common or contract carriers from requiring or causing any label to be placed on any package indicating that it contains a firearm and requires obtaining written acknowledgement of receipt.
[18 U.S.C. 922(a)(2)(A), 922(a)(5), 922(e) and (f); 27 CFR 478.30 and 478.31]
Very interesting ty.
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