Steve Donlon
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https://loaddata.com/Article/LoadDevelopment/Handloads-for-the-86-Blackout/2760 I found this information this morning about the 86 blackout. I did not understand what this round was all about. This helped me.
Big heavy bullet capable of being used suppressed out to 200 yds.https://loaddata.com/Article/LoadDevelopment/Handloads-for-the-86-Blackout/2760 I found this information this morning about the 86 blackout. I did not understand what this round was all about. This helped me.
Precisely! No replacement for displacement when it comes to surface area when subsonicOnce you are limited to subsonic increasing caliber is really the only way to add more oomph.
^ I'll agree with that. That's why I'm liking the 338 arc/br/spectre/etc
Is there a stick powder fast enough for heavy subs?
Please don’t take this as an attack, but more to add a little understanding or perspective. Many people use this argument against subsonic hunting. Many have not thought it through.I read what was offered to the unsubscribed, and i surely do not understand why. He listed quite a few loads sub sonic and super sonic, and only one I saw had energy over 1000ft lbs. Many states and most ethical hunters believe this to be minimum for safe and ethical hunting. I must confess to have being enamored with the idea of a 338 dia suppressed rifle. I read Peter R Senich's book many years ago and the earlier attempts had me wanting one desperately. The 8.6 has killed all of that. If the author really wants to hunt with supersonic ammo, what's the point get a 308 win and be done with it. 308 win has way more power that 1000 ft lbs and requires none of the work to make one of the 8.6s to function, I think I still want one but the real world performance tells me no.
More opinion.I do not take this as an attack, just another opinion. A broad head doesn't work on energy, it works on blood loss, arrow speed dia of blade cutting radius. I shot a hog in what some describe as a Texas heart shot, a 115 grain thunder head and only the nock sticking out, so it had 27 -28 inches of penetration and it got up to run off. I made the same shot in the chest and it finally died. I do not think that it was a good kill. I am not proud of it at all. But yes I'll give you the close range with a handgun and a suppressed rifle. I was sold on a 300BLK when they first came out, till I looked at a trajectory chart. I want a suppressed rifle, but am under whelmed with the performance. My yard where I live is 315.73 feet wide, I could have predators 2 legged or 4 legged that would be out of range in my yard. I guess I just want too much.