trimmers

[wolfman]

First off- A Giraud is not in the cards at the moment, so lets get that out of the way right now. I'm currently running a Forster trimmer for all my trimming, but it's time to dedicate a trimmer to .308 for F/Tr.

I have been trimming every time, just in order to make sure every case is the same, all the time. I honestly don't mind the trimming part, but chamfering and deburring this often is another story. I'm trying to find a way to speed the whole process up, while maintaining consistency. Is it possible to chamfer and debur by hand, under power, with any level of consistency?

I have a few of ideas.

#1- get a three way cutter for the Forster, maybe with a the power adaptor. It seems like a great solution, but I don;t hear much about people doing this. Input from anyone who has would be great. I'm especially interested in optimum speed from the power source, consistency of the trim length, and quality of the chamfer.

#2- Set up a WFT in a drill, probably mounted horizontally on a board ( I would say pointing straight up, but I'm not sure the self clearing function would work in that orientation), and then continue to hand chamfer and debur.

#3- set up a Wilson, again, with or without power, and chamfer and debur by hand.

 

[jweb308]

Wolfman,

Google up Dustin Youngdell Trimmer. This has been getting a fair amount of traffic on FB. Construction appears sturdy and results seem very repeatable

For years I used a Redding until upgrading to a Giraud. I respect your opening statement about that not being in the cards.

Stay safe
WEB

 

[artbosco]

... it's time to dedicate a trimmer to .308 for F/Tr.

The RCBS powered Trim Pro case trimmer with their 3-way cutter will do an excellent job: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lXo96H-h7k When done, stuff the necks into a piece of 0000 steel wool, using a powered screw driver, to polish up the cuts on the neck.

 

[JamesnTN]

I'm fond of Wilson trimmers to be honest. I have one setup for each caliber I shoot and once it's set it stays there.

 

[3Ackleys]

I use the forster power set up in a 10" craftsman drill press with 3-way cutter for 308 and 223 it does a great job and fast- about 10 cases per minute

 

[308warbird]

I have 3. All offer something but none are true perfection.

1. Dillon 1200 set up on a 650 w/ a case feeder. Very fast (1000 per hour) but some variance in OAL and still requires chamfering. Absolute pain to change calipers.

2. Gracey. Slower but less variance and chamfer is done. (700 per hour). Still a hassle to change calipers. I wish it was a Girard.

3. Wilson SS w/ micro adjustment. Slow but easy to change calibers and ultra precise. I use this more and more all the time. Inexpensive and inexpensive to change calibers as well.

I have yet to find a fast, cheap, easy to change and precise trimmer. I do not care for the idea of using a drill personally. I think a Giraurd would be ideal for a dedicated caliber.

 

[Shynloco]

First off- A Giraud is not in the cards at the moment, so lets get that out of the way right now. I'm currently running a Forster trimmer for all my trimming, but it's time to dedicate a trimmer to .308 for F/Tr.

#3- set up a Wilson, again, with or without power, and chamfer and debur by hand.

I'm with you on this one. I've had various trimmers and have found the Wilson to be the most accurate and reliable (based on my wallet) with a Redding 2400 as a backup. You might note both have mics and I have written down the reference settings for each caliber when changing to a different caliber casing. Once set (after change) I run one casing through and measure to make sure the setting is accurate so I get consistency in the lengths of my casings which I check each and every time I reload a set of casings I've fired. And yes, I do also chamfer and debur, but have the forster hand cranks attached to the edge of my reloading bench with the chamfer and deburring tools inserted to make life easier. I also use 0000 steel wool as the last step in the process.

Alex

 

[dkhunt14]

I like the Wilson. I have a couple of Foresters and if you don't get the case in right they cut to short. I have the stainless Wilson with the Micrometer adjustment. They are really accurate and easy to switch calibers. If you take a caliper and measure the distance the rod sticks out and write it down. You can return to your setting quickly and repeatable. Matt

 

[jsthntn247]

First off- A Giraud is not in the cards at the moment, so lets get that out of the way right now. I'm currently running a Forster trimmer for all my trimming, but it's time to dedicate a trimmer to .308 for F/Tr.

I have been trimming every time, just in order to make sure every case is the same, all the time. I honestly don't mind the trimming part, but chamfering and deburring this often is another story. I'm trying to find a way to speed the whole process up, while maintaining consistency. Is it possible to chamfer and debur by hand, under power, with any level of consistency?

I have a few of ideas.

#1- get a three way cutter for the Forster, maybe with a the power adaptor. It seems like a great solution, but I don;t hear much about people doing this. Input from anyone who has would be great. I'm especially interested in optimum speed from the power source, consistency of the trim length, and quality of the chamfer.

#2- Set up a WFT in a drill, probably mounted horizontally on a board ( I would say pointing straight up, but I'm not sure the self clearing function would work in that orientation), and then continue to hand chamfer and debur.

#3- set up a Wilson, again, with or without power, and chamfer and debur by hand.

#1 option is what I do. Can trim about 5 cases per minute with power adapter and 3 way trimmer. If WFT or Dustins trimmer would chamfer and debur along with cutting for under 100$, they could corner the market

 

[Alex Wheeler]

I dont like how the pilot in the forster scratches the insides of the case necks. The giraud and any other trimmer that trims off the shoulder and also chamfers does a pretty sloppy job because the chamfer is usually not concentric to the neck. I wont not use my giraud on anything other than service rifle brass. I would use the wilson.

 

[JCardenas]

Do any of u know how to, or had contact info for Dustin Youngdell Trimmer. I tried to google it but have had little to no luck

 

[Prairiedogger]

http://68forums.com/forums/showthread.php?47733-Found-me-a-new-trimmer


Found this on BING He lives in Utah

 

[Joe R]

I apologize for going off topic

zfastmalibu said: I dont like how the pilot in the forster scratches the insides of the case necks. The giraud and any other trimmer that trims off the shoulder and also chamfers does a pretty sloppy job because the chamfer is usually not concentric to the neck. I wont not use my giraud on anything other than service rifle brass. I would use the wilson.

I apologize for going off topic. I respectfully disagree with this statement. My experience is exactly opposite of what you're saying. I was using the Wilson Ultimate trimmer and it did a good job. Since I've gotten the Giraud I've been very impressed with it's accuracy of both the trimming and chamfering. It is very concentric and uniform all around the neck. That was my major concern when I bought that machine. When I bought it I did 200 cases and checked each one for exactly that. I would have sent it back if it didn't perform. Fact is that is does an amazingly good job, that its fast and easy is a bonus to me.

My only complaint about Giraud is that I wish he'd make a neck shaver as good as his trimmer.