Titanium action, who makes the best

[boltfluter]

My Pierce weighs 6 1/4 lbs with a 27" Douglas barrel and a 3x9 Zeiss. Mine has a custom Brown Precision kevlar stock. Melonite the bolt and it's slick as owl shi*t.

280AI before Melonite.

Butch,

That is certainly a beauty you have there! Very nice.

Paul

 

[Sniper338]

How light have you gotten a 700?

How do you skeletonize a 700? Pictures?

 

[boltfluter]

How do you skeletonize a 700? Pictures?

Sniper,

Some cut windows through the action behind the threaded area, and some cut flats above the stock line. Some turn down the middle section of the action. Just a few that I am aware of.

Paul

 

[Kurz]

bolt "binding" I had the same problem with a stainless DEFIANCE Defiant s/a + there was a gritty sound when the bolt was worked which after multiple polishing efforts and no interest form the manufacturer or gun builder to help....

From the Defiance website:

The Defiance Guarantee
If you don’t like it, we’ll change it, swap it, or refund your money. We want all of our customers to be 100% satisfied with the quality of our product. We’ll even pay the return shipping.

Guaranteed.

Defiance has always been receptive to my calls and e-mails, except for the week before SHOT Show. But everyone is busy right before SHOT Show.

Had you contacted them with a viable complaint about the feel or operation of one of their actions, they would have responded as usual, send it in for a check up. I'm sure we're not getting the entire story here.

 

[Sniper338]

From the Defiance website:

The Defiance Guarantee
If you don’t like it, we’ll change it, swap it, or refund your money. We want all of our customers to be 100% satisfied with the quality of our product. We’ll even pay the return shipping.

Guaranteed.

Defiance has always been receptive to my calls and e-mails, except for the week before SHOT Show. But everyone is busy right before SHOT Show.

Had you contacted them with a viable complaint about the feel or operation of one of their actions, they would have responded as usual, send it in for a check up. I'm sure we're not getting the entire story here.

+2.... I highly doubt it too. Norm always took care of me with anything I needed.

 

[Rem6br]

bolt "binding" I had the same problem with a stainless DEFIANCE Defiant s/a + there was a gritty sound when the bolt was worked which after multiple polishing efforts and no interest form the manufacturer or gun builder to help.... finally sold the entire rifle. Good riddance !!!

No doubt Borden makes a fine action. I own defiance machine actions
and they are top notch never an issue and smooth as silk. I would look hard at Smith
if I found that on a defiance.

 

[msalm]

For an easy ultra-light, pick up a Howa Mini in 7.62x39 or 6.5 grendel and rebarrel it with a light contour in 22 Grendel. 5.5lbs with factory Tupperware stock and will shoot 53gr Vmax at over 3500fps. Makes a great carry rifle for varmints with a very respectable factory trigger.

If you only want info on Ti actions, I have a Pierce LA Mag in 300 Win that made a nice rifle, but as Butch mentioned, something has to be done for coatings as it’s sticky as is. I coated mine with microslick, but it needs something better so I’ll have to send the bolt out for melonite or DLC.

 

[sdbob]

Nothing wrong with my Lone Peak Razor built by TS customs in 22-243.

 

[xswanted]

Just a thought but the Kimber Montana weighs only 6.08 pounds with Talley mounts and a Leupold scope on top.

This is a short action.

But I would guess building a rifle this light would be very doable.

I’d personally buy an action your comfortable with, any good “hunting” custom action and then use a light barrel and a very light stock along with lightweight mounts and scope.

I would think building a rig just under 7 pounds loaded with ammo should be doable with a lot of the good actions out there.

 

[Dimner]

My Pierce weighs 6 1/4 lbs with a 27" Douglas barrel and a 3x9 Zeiss. Mine has a custom Brown Precision kevlar stock. Melonite the bolt and it's slick as owl shi*t.

280AI before Melonite.

Butch, and chance you can repost these pics?

 

[butchlambert]

Butch, and chance you can repost these pics?

Yes:

 

[Dimner]

Super nice rifle. Thank you for sharing. I'm contemplating a very light rifle setup in a yet to be determined small-mid capacity cartridge (under 40gr capacity). For hunting and 'because why not' mostly.

 

[butchlambert]

Super nice rifle. Thank you for sharing. I'm contemplating a very light rifle setup in a yet to be determined small-mid capacity cartridge (under 40gr capacity). For hunting and 'because why not' mostly.

Sounds good! I should have made mine in a different caliber. It wasn't pleasant on the bench, but was OK hunting with it.

 

[Walt Krafft]

I year or so ago, I had two customers getting ready for an elk hunt. They wanted 6 pound rifles in 300 WSM. I priced them out and mentioned recoil might be a tad harsh. Not sure what they ended up with.

 

[butchlambert]

I year or so ago, I had two customers getting ready for an elk hunt. They wanted 6 pound rifles in 300 WSM. I priced them out and mentioned recoil might be a tad harsh. Not sure what they ended up with.

Well, There are better ways than a lightweight rifle.

 

[msalm]

If I was looking now, I’d look at Mack Bros lightweight steel action…it’s lighter than their titanium action by 2 oz. After seeing Butch’s build I also ordered a Ti action from Pierce and built a lightweight 300 Win mag, 26” fluted #3 Brux and a McM standard sporter stock. It’s around 7lbs with a 2-10 Leica scope and a very handy rifle for western hunts. And like Butch’s, it’s very lively at the bench! Just fine for hunting though.

 

[Dimner]

If I was looking now, I’d look at Mack Bros lightweight steel action…it’s lighter than their titanium action by 2 oz. After seeing Butch’s build I also ordered a Ti action from Pierce and built a lightweight 300 Win mag, 26” fluted #3 Brux and a McM standard sporter stock. It’s around 7lbs with a 2-10 Leica scope and a very handy rifle for western hunts. And like Butch’s, it’s very lively at the bench! Just fine for hunting though.

Man, 7lbs with that setup. I always thought my rifles were like 8lb rifles and nothing spectacular with the components regarding weight savings. I think I was happily over optimistic. Remind me to never find out the real weight! However, I guess it's not been a problem for me if they are a 10lb rig.

Now, that being said, I still want to put together a super light build with a 20 inch barrel and a low recoil cartridge. Maybe suppressed if that can be worked out. I just need to decide if I really want to drop a few $k on a rifle I'll hunt with 3-5 days a year when I have a cabinet full of others that are just as fun to take out for a spin.

 

[msalm]

Man, 7lbs with that setup. I always thought my rifles were like 8lb rifles and nothing spectacular with the components regarding weight savings. I think I was happily over optimistic. Remind me to never find out the real weight! However, I guess it's not been a problem for me if they are a 10lb rig.

Now, that being said, I still want to put together a super light build with a 20 inch barrel and a low recoil cartridge. Maybe suppressed if that can be worked out. I just need to decide if I really want to drop a few $k on a rifle I'll hunt with 3-5 days a year when I have a cabinet full of others that are just as fun to take out for a spin.

I went with an ADL trigger guard, blind mag and shooting 200gr Sierra Gamekings (because…old school..). No brake (same reason). It’s a kicker.

 

[butchlambert]

Man, 7lbs with that setup. I always thought my rifles were like 8lb rifles and nothing spectacular with the components regarding weight savings. I think I was happily over optimistic. Remind me to never find out the real weight! However, I guess it's not been a problem for me if they are a 10lb rig.

Now, that being said, I still want to put together a super light build with a 20 inch barrel and a low recoil cartridge. Maybe suppressed if that can be worked out. I just need to decide if I really want to drop a few $k on a rifle I'll hunt with 3-5 days a year when I have a cabinet full of others that are just as fun to take out for a spin.

Don't matter how many you have in the safe. I just build another!

 

[Bc'z]

Don't matter how many you have in the safe. I just build another!