Throat carbon removal ????

[LRPV]

Witch's Brew used on a stiff bronze brush will clean everything out of a barrel as well as advance throat growth. Go easy with it. I've also used it on patch with a jag and the felt pellets. In my opinion the next step after witchs brew would be lapping.

 

[LarryDScott]

I have read many times where people say they never put a brush in their bore. Obviously, these same people dont own a borescope. I have always used a brush, and tried every so called "perfect" liquid cleaning solution to come down the pike, thinking I was doing a good job, because I would get a white patch.
The white patch is a half truth. The culprit was the carbon in the throat area that none of the miracle liquids would touch. This I didnt know existed until I got a bore scope. W/O a bore scope you are only guessing that your cleaning procedure works ??? LDS

 

[tmwinds]

Has anyone tried unscrewing the barrel and putting the breech end into a good ultrasonic cleaner to remove the hard carbon from the throat area of the barrel? I know it works great on a muzzle brake.

 

[Texas10]

I have never seen a carbon ring, anyone have a picture they would like to share?

I've been using a chamber brush when cleaning, and when checking distance to lands. Spin it on a section of cleaning rod using a cordless drill, and check with a bore camera, so maybe I've been avoiding carbon build up all along.

Coolest barrel cleaner I've seen was on a movie set. Armorer used a steam generator and a wand inserted into the bore of muzzle loaders to clean after each days shoot.

Back in the day when I was playing with water/alcohol injection in my turbo engines, I would pull a head and find the valves and entire head/exhaust ports perfectly clean with no carbon build up.

So now I'm wondering if anyone has tried high pressure steam to remove carbon? Would no doubt have to remove the barreled action from the stock first, but seems likely it would work and be less trouble than having a smith cut the carbon out.

 

[JRS]

I have never seen a carbon ring, anyone have a picture they would like to share?

I've been using a chamber brush when cleaning, and when checking distance to lands. Spin it on a section of cleaning rod using a cordless drill, and check with a bore camera, so maybe I've been avoiding carbon build up all along.

Coolest barrel cleaner I've seen was on a movie set. Armorer used a steam generator and a wand inserted into the bore of muzzle loaders to clean after each days shoot.

Back in the day when I was playing with water/alcohol injection in my turbo engines, I would pull a head and find the valves and entire head/exhaust ports perfectly clean with no carbon build up.

So now I'm wondering if anyone has tried high pressure steam to remove carbon? Would no doubt have to remove the barreled action from the stock first, but seems likely it would work and be less trouble than having a smith cut the carbon out.

"Fuzzy" Carter removed carbon via the steam process

 

[KMart]

I have never seen a carbon ring, anyone have a picture they would like to share?

I've been using a chamber brush when cleaning, and when checking distance to lands. Spin it on a section of cleaning rod using a cordless drill, and check with a bore camera, so maybe I've been avoiding carbon build up all along.

Coolest barrel cleaner I've seen was on a movie set. Armorer used a steam generator and a wand inserted into the bore of muzzle loaders to clean after each days shoot.

Back in the day when I was playing with water/alcohol injection in my turbo engines, I would pull a head and find the valves and entire head/exhaust ports perfectly clean with no carbon build up.

So now I'm wondering if anyone has tried high pressure steam to remove carbon? Would no doubt have to remove the barreled action from the stock first, but seems likely it would work and be less trouble than having a smith cut the carbon out.

Here is a thread from a couple of years ago about using steam to clean carbon.

http://forum.accurateshooter.com/threads/carbon-rings-and-steam-cleaners.3884581/

 

[Nude nut]

The best fix is dont let carbon get to the stage where its hard to remove.
The best for me when its been awhile is citric acid.
But my usual routine is remove barrel at end of the day spray mercury tune in barrel and let soak over nite then patch out and then respray and a scrub done.
The benefits of using mercury tune is it attacks copper also. Cheers Trev.

 

[urbanrifleman]

The best carbon remover I have ever seen in my life is Super Slick from Lowes. It simply dissolves the carbon and it leaves a dry lube film, and smells like oranges. It is at Lowes and it is 6 bucks a can. Yer welcome.

 

[T-shooter]

The best carbon remover I have ever seen in my life is Super Slick from Lowes. It simply dissolves the carbon and it leaves a dry lube film, and smells like oranges. It is at Lowes and it is 6 bucks a can. Yer welcome.

I ordered a can. It may be just the thing for other applications too like the bolt carrier in an AR and cleaning out the action in my Savage .22. It's too much work to take it apart to clean every time and it will just get dirty in a few rounds. I've used a mix of Hoppes #9 and Militec oil, pour some in with the muzzle pointing up and work the bolt and then stand the rifle on it's muzzle with some paper towels stuffed in the open bolt and magazine well. The black stuff just run out. Usually 2-3 times and it's pretty clean and lubricated. I let it set inverted overnight so everything that can runs out. This product may be better. If it doesn't cut all the carbon, at least it will smell pretty.

 

[urbanrifleman]

I will spray down a bolt carrier from an AR15 and just rub it with a finger tip or a toothbrush and the carbon just falls off. I also start my barrel cleaning routine with several very wet patches of SS, and then go to Bore tech Eliminator and and finish with more SS. That is really all this required. On a good barrel that is all I ever need. It is also very good for just hosing down a gun and letting it air dry. Leaves a very nice shiny film. Great for parkerized rifles. Makes them very shiny and slick but dry.

 

[boltman13]

Larry Scott is right, no mater what you do, or use, the Bore Scope is the final judge of how clean your barrel is. Some interesting, thought provoking, products I may have to try.

 

[Rsadams]

Has anyone tried the CARBON KILLER from the people who make slip 2000.. I have heard it works very well removing carbon from the tail of an m16 bolt and carrier which is normally a scraping job for sure..????

 

[memilanuk]

Removing carbon from a bolt carrier, even inside, is a very different matter from getting the stuff that is baked into the rifling to the point where its formed a glaze.

 

[LarryDScott]

Has anyone tried the CARBON KILLER from the people who make slip 2000.. I have heard it works very well removing carbon from the tail of an m16 bolt and carrier which is normally a scraping job for sure..????

In one of my posts Slip 2000 is on that list. I soaked a patch, left it in the throat over night, It did nothing. LDS

 

[Rsadams]

In one of my posts Slip 2000 is on that list. I soaked a patch, left it in the throat over night, It did nothing. LDS

Yes I saw it but they make a carbon cutter also Larry called CARBON KILLER I was talking about it not the oil.. many , many ar15 guys are useing it on BCG to remove the carbon which is dry caked on in very little time... They have it at BCM under the gun cleaning supplies section altho you may be able to find it cheaper?

I have tried just slip 2000 ewl and it will not remove hard carbon , it's all I use for lube on the ar15 platforms anymore.. altho it seems like lubing the bolt tail does make it easier to remove over time..

 

[LarryDScott]

Yes I saw it but they make a carbon cutter also Larry called CARBON KILLER I was talking about it not the oil.. many , many ar15 guys are useing it on BCG to remove the carbon which is dry caked on in very little time... They have it at BCM under the gun cleaning supplies section altho you may be able to find it cheaper?

I have tried just slip 2000 ewl and it will not remove hard carbon , it's all I use for lube on the ar15 platforms anymore.. altho it seems like lubing the bolt tail does make it easier to remove over time..

I was referring to carbon killer. I havent used any of their other products. I edited the list. LDS

 

[Rsadams]

I was referring to carbon killer. I havent used any of their other products. I edited the list. LDS

Ohh ok sorry.. I know slip says their oil keeps carbon down but I have not found that to be so true... You might give their oils a try I really like them for semi automatic firearms pistol and rifles...

As a guy who rebuilds engines I see a lot of hard carbon.. even so hard that a caustic soda spray bath at extremely hot temps doesn't remove it all sometimes... Which then you have to resort to scraping , not so bad for an engine but not so good for a barrel.. or long soaks in oil to soften it but of course then back to scraping it.. I have tried different things to help remove it from BCG in the AR and really nothing works and you resort to useing a flat blade screwdriver to get down in there as gentle as possible.. on car parts I have seen it stuck so bad and be so hard even a wire wheel can't get it unless you're willing to risk damage by useing a wheel so stiff it's basically like tiny screwdrivers...

Thanks for the reply.. I have heard good things about carbon killer but I guess I will skip it and just keep useing the oil to help soften and scrap method for my BCG... I have read a bunch of these threads and there seems to really be no easy way for barrels..

 

[Cloudrepair]

I think some citrus cleaner or just lemon or lime juice would work good. I just tried some key west lime juice and it took the carbon off the muzzle under my break tunner easier than any thing else I've tried.
Now what would I use to neutralize it. Baking soda and water or would oil do it. Would citric acid even harm a barrel if left alone for a while?

 

[370bc]

Right out of high school I worked for Dow Chemical cleaning heat exchangers in oil refineries. The high pressure water pumps we used could cut a 2x4 in half @ 10'. We ran long, small diameter tubes w/tiny holes in the end and push them to the end of the larger tubes w/ridiculous high amounts of water pressure blowing out. If a person could rig a set up similar to that would be fast and and environmentally friendly. Sounds crazy but you never know.

 

[jimmymac]

Are these the pellets you guys are referring to?

https://www.brownells.com/gun-clean...ts/weapons-care-system-pellets-prod13839.aspx