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Thoughts on suppressors

Ps: On my 556 16in carbine I have a 3oz $50 kaw valley linear compensator. I can shoot it 2-3x in the open without ear protection and I'm fine. If I take it off and shoot then I get a big blast in the face and left ear pain that lasts for 4 days. ( had to do it once to see how effective it was!).
Option on hunting rifles for those with sensitive ears.
 
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Even though I don't have any, I love suppressors and those who shoot with them. It is so pleasurable shooting next to them. Bravo Suppressors!!!

In respect for my fellow shooting brothers, I do not shoot with muzzle brakes. Those create some serious noise. Very bad for guys like me with already significant hearing loss, even with double protection of plugs and muffs, the noise is painful to the point I will leave the range if someone is shooting them next me.
 
The barrel length is not an issue if you want to be 'silent deadly' because range is short and bullet is intentionally shot slow. As mentioned.
For hunting I dont see the need to muffle the occasional shot out in the open. In many cases you dont even notice it in the height of the action. The Euros use them alot more for courtesy as they varmint hunt in more populated areas and at night.
SO what are they really good for that makes them worth the extra length and loss of balance? Subsonic!! It appears many are following others in the trend without really thinking it through?

You may not notice it, but that doesn't mean that permanent hearing damage is not occurring.

Again, extra length and "loss of balance" can be made up for with modifying the barrel length. As has been noted, the velocity loss by taking 4-6" off a barrel is not that significant, especially if you are a handloader. The difference between my 22" barreled 308 and my 18" barreled .308 shooting 165 grain bullets is exactly 4 clicks at 500 yards. Certainly not enough for me to worry about.
 
You may not notice it, but that doesn't mean that permanent hearing damage is not occurring.

Again, extra length and "loss of balance" can be made up for with modifying the barrel length. As has been noted, the velocity loss by taking 4-6" off a barrel is not that significant, especially if you are a handloader. The difference between my 22" barreled 308 and my 18" barreled .308 shooting 165 grain bullets is exactly 4 clicks at 500 yards. Certainly not enough for me to worry about.

And permanent liver damage from consuming more than 3 alcoholic drinks per week.
 
I purchased a full auto rated 556 suppressor and a hunting can rated to 300wm. Next will be some sort of serviceable for pistol and rimfire. Have the hunting can on my 204R(22" barrel), fairly common to have a second,even a third coyote come in 10-15 minutes after a shot and kill.
 
Even though I don't have any, I love suppressors and those who shoot with them. It is so pleasurable shooting next to them. Bravo Suppressors!!!

In respect for my fellow shooting brothers, I do not shoot with muzzle brakes. Those create some serious noise. Very bad for guys like me with already significant hearing loss, even with double protection of plugs and muffs, the noise is painful to the point I will leave the range if someone is shooting them next me.
I look at them as much as a good brake as I do a suppressor. All the guys I run with that have bought suppressors are shocked on how much recoil goes away as well as the initial blast/concussion.
 
I have seen alot of rifles accuracy increase significantly when I have shortened the barrel and fitted a suppressor..the barrel becomes stiffer.the barrel has a new crown cut clean and square to the bore.the suppressor tames the recoil and in some cases balances the rifle better.it all helps with the rifles shot to shot consistency which is what we all want...consistently accurate rifles.especially when hunting live animals.
 
Thinking of trying one for my deer/elk rifles (30-06 and 7mm Rem Mag.
For a hunting application I would 100% recommend one. My son shot his first deer this year using a suppressed 6.8SPC. He might have been a bit jittery and missed the first TWO shots. The buck never even flinched and luckily the 3rd shot happened at the correct time of the rising/falling crosshairs and missed right into his head. That moment was worth every penny and the entire 1 year wait.
 
I think I would like to own one or more but the thought of having to beg a criminal organization like the ATF for permission makes me rethink the issue. Any time you wish to leave the state you live in (to hunt out of state) with the suppressor you will have to apply for permission from the ATF. Approval of request for permission to own one gives them the right to come and inspect it, anytime day or night at your home.
Fact check false. They do NOT have any such authority and are as subject to the 4th amendment/unlawful search and seizures as they ever were before owning ANY NFPA items.
I’m sure the very thought of possessing such a radical power makes their little peckers hard but alas, it’s all in their wet dreams…
 
I like them and have one. My son and grandson's suppressors have been in prison now for several months since last year waiting on uncle jackass to approve. It will be a great day when the government comes to its senses and removes them from the blackmail list. Prices will come down and improvements will be made.
 
It is interesting ( and somewhat amusing) to observe the emotional reaction some on this forum have to suppressors. It's something you don't really see in parts of the world where suppressors have been in use for multiple decades. Carl S will identify with that. I guess change is unsettling to some people. Here in NZ, no-one cares whether you have a suppressor or not, it's entirely up to you and they're as easy to get as a recoil pad. Definitely don't have the Govt clipping the ticket and sticking their nose in.

All of my sporters and varmint rifles have suppressors, the exception being my heavy .280AI deer truck gun with 27" bbl. None of my competition guns have them as there's no point. One of the big advantages of suppressed guns is when you're out in the field with buddies- you don't have to worry about blasting them. Far more sociable. You can shoot a deer on one side of hill then find another undisturbed one just over the crest.

Much of the velocity loss with shortening barrels can be overcome with intelligent loading.
Here is my 7-08 Tikka with a 16" bbl. It deliver a 120TTSX (equivalent to a 140 lead bullet) at 2940 and that thing kills deer very well out to 300yds, further at times. It is very light and useable in tight bush, something we have plenty of here.

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It is interesting ( and somewhat amusing) to observe the emotional reaction some on this forum have to suppressors. It's something you don't really see in parts of the world where suppressors have been in use for multiple decades. Carl S will identify with that. I guess change is unsettling to some people. Here in NZ, no-one cares whether you have a suppressor or not, it's entirely up to you and they're as easy to get as a recoil pad. Definitely don't have the Govt clipping the ticket and sticking their nose in.

All of my sporters and varmint rifles have suppressors, the exception being my heavy .280AI deer truck gun with 27" bbl. None of my competition guns have them as there's no point. One of the big advantages of suppressed guns is when you're out in the field with buddies- you don't have to worry about blasting them. Far more sociable. You can shoot a deer on one side of hill then find another undisturbed one just over the crest.

Much of the velocity loss with shortening barrels can be overcome with intelligent loading.
Here is my 7-08 Tikka with a 16" bbl. It deliver a 120TTSX (equivalent to a 140 lead bullet) at 2940 and that thing kills deer very well out to 300yds, further at times. It is very light and useable in tight bush, something we have plenty of here.

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30+years ago suppressors were uncommon here.no one really cared for them and police constabularys didn't like them.then people started seeing the benefits of them and now it is very rare to see a hunting-varmint rifle without one.me and a friend were out foxing one night we were not far away from our town,just on the outskirts.it was a still and quite night.around midnight.my friend shot this fox in the bottom of this field,a deep valley in it with his 220 swift..unsupressed.the bang was so loud and the sound bounced all the way down town..dogs barking lights coming on in houses.it was like a bomb going off.unbelievable.it wasn't long before the police were out.we were long gone.that bang made our local news paper the following week.the land owner laughed about it and told us do it again..i spun the barrel in the lathe and fitted a suppressor promptly.problem solved.
 

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