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This Just in From Oregon

Oregon, like California is suffering a financial crisis, their underfunded state pension debt has grown so large that without an infusion of billions of taxpayer dollars, many state workers will get a much smaller pension, or none at all. Best way to raise taxes without suffering taxpayer outrage is to make normal, everyday behavior illegal. Write tickets, collect fines, incarcerate, confiscate and sell property which, BTW, goes by the very seductive name of Asset Forfeiture. So they pick a contemporary hot button issue, the "ill d'jour" and use it as an excuse to further cement their power base by eliminating possible opposition.

The basis of the Second Amendment is to secure a free state, free from tyranny in government, (remember our founders were fleeing England and King George's tyrannical government), which is the whole basis of our Constitution. Therefore, perpetually chipping away at the Second Amendment is vital to the entrenchment of corruption, and the continued eroding of civil and Constitutional rights.
 
Yes I would expect so - and then will handloading fall within what the word 'received' is intended to catch in the 20 round limit - Line 12 Page 4.

See also:
Page 4
Line 14 - ammo sellers required to keep records.
Line 17 - Police exempt
Line 19 - ammo used for target shooting exempt

I see this is proposed at the request of Students For Change.

Bunch of dumb arsses. All these stupid bills do nothing but cosr us a ton of tax payers money.
They should be charged y reimbursement.
 
Who would want to shoot more than 20 rounds of ammo per month?

Frankly, I hate to wish bad luck on anyone but someone has to carry the torch. I sometimes think it will be us here in CA.

Eventually a ridiculous law like this will pass and the challenge will make it to the supreme court and the tide will turn. If it is you in Oregon, then godspeed to you.

It is fantastic and very gratifying to see communist liberal left wing democrat B.S. slapped out of the sky!!! It is also funny to see what happened here in the communist libtard state of Maryland...a few years back the libtards passed a law that made it illegal to sell or possess hi cap {over 10 rounds} magazines made after a certain date. This is galactically stupid for too many reasons, but the bottom line is that our sheriff, a real stand up guy, immediately said in a public announcement: "this is the dumbest law I have seen yet...how are we supposed to ascertain what date an unmarked magazine was made on?" He then went on to say, "don't worry folks, we wont be enforcing this one!!!"
Our legislators are a special kind of stupid here...they probably ought to run for congress!!!

How in the world did this idiot ever get elected?

I'll tell you exactly how...the normal people in that state are probably just as outnumbered as we are here...if every normal, reasonable, intelligent person voted three times we still cant outnumber the communists libs.
 
Commentary on worldwide trends: After the fall of the Soviet Union, much of the discussion about the negative economic impact of communism/socialism was pushed off the front page as "old news". Socialism is always attractive to the uneducated masses because of the promise of free stuff at the expense of the government (who cares where it gets it's money) or perhaps slightly more educated who think the free stuff comes from a limitless supply of money from the vast population of evil rich people, all of whom live somewhere else since they don't know any. European countries have been leaning socialist with the socialist party taking control in many countries. Socialism remained a dirty word in the US until recently. Now it is considered trendy to young people to call yourself a socialist.

Sadly, I recently saw poll results where 53% of millenials chose socialism and 45% capitalism. Some small number also chose communism and facism. I guarantee nobody who voted for those 2 knew what they were voting for.
 
We need to extend the wall north

Every state is currently challenged by the other side making great gains including yours. Keep thinking like that and your state could be next. It is not an "over there" problem.
 
Keep that shit away from Georgia
YUP and Idaho, too !!
Build that,.. WALL and keep, the Looney, Liberal, crazy STUPID,.. Ore and Kali, People,.. OUT of Idaho !! Sadly, it's like Carlsbad said, it's "trendy" to be a Social/commie, now ! The young people today, are being, "Brainwashed", by our so called,.. "News Media" !
There will never be, "Utopia" on planet Earth, no matter how many "Laws" they pass !
Evil, crazy criminals,.. DON'T obey,.. the Law !
 
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Looks like some of the rejects from my state (CA) moved north to screw up living and gun advocates rights there. Its their diseased minds. Simple solution....build a wall...against LIBERALS.

Alex


It didn't come from CA. This mentality will just result in more problems everywhere. Look at the leaders of all the tech companies in Seattle. Look at the leadership in all the major cities in the US? Illinios is being taken down by Chicago. MO is suffering because of St Louis. My friends in CO are quite concerned.

This is a nationwide issue. It will eventually get to you in your state unless you quit trying to blame it on CA and start looking locally.
 
Unbelievable...

https://olis.leg.state.or.us/liz/2019R1/Downloads/MeasureDocument/SB501/Introduced

5-roung mags, no more than 20 round ammo purchase per month, permit to buy any firearm, etc.


Ore and Wash state are becoming more lunatic than California is already. Does this legislator really believe criminals are going to obey these proposed laws ? They don't obey any of the hundreds of other laws, even the law against theft and murder.
All these laws would do or effect are the lawful and legal citizens of the state. They are so ignorant anymore, it is sickening.
 
Another observation on worldwide trends: We tend to follow the political trends in Europe, often by years. Not sure why we lag but I've noticed that over decades of observation. The "yellow vest" protests in France are spreading to Germany. Expect a version to get to the US eventually. The lag may be short on this one. --Jerry
 
Ore and Wash state are becoming more lunatic than California is already. Does this legislator really believe criminals are going to obey these proposed laws ? They don't obey any of the hundreds of other laws, even the law against theft and murder.
All these laws would do or effect are the lawful and legal citizens of the state. They are so ignorant anymore, it is sickening.
you are the danger to the legislaters. its you that they want to disarm. you are the threat to their power
the criminals are a insignificant minority that can be dealt with at a later time
by you I mean all of us gun owners
time to buy a yellow vest
 
Another observation on worldwide trends: We tend to follow the political trends in Europe, often by years. Not sure why we lag but I've noticed that over decades of observation. The "yellow vest" protests in France are spreading to Germany. Expect a version to get to the US eventually. The lag may be short on this one. --Jerry

Better sooner than later! I’m fear major bloodshed in the future if we continue much farther down the current path.
 
Better sooner than later! I’m fear major bloodshed in the future if we continue much farther down the current path.
unfortunately, the supreme court does us no good. I am sure it cost many millions of dollars and many years to get a case thru the court system , for each one of these crazy laws. all the commies have to do is pass hundreds of these laws. they know we cant afford to get all of them thru the system.
by the time they are overturned they have had the desired affect
 
The Left has more energy and belief in their cause then we do. They are well-financed by the elites to go out in mass protests and generate TV adds. Why are not the conservative elites not financing our causes? Why are we not organizing large protests? It may be because they also fear the armed but poorer citizens.
 

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