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This Happened To Me (Kaboom Almost)

Given some recent posts concerning kabooms I’.ll recount this experience from years ago.

So anyway there I was...in a carbine class. I supposedly had a 5.56 chamber but the barrel was bought at a gun show way back in the’80s from a local parts supplier and who knows what reamer it was chambered with. I was shooting Tula 223 (because I was tired of my brass going home with everyone but me).

I had a failure to fire. I tried to eject the round but the bolt wouldn’t open. Instructor comes over, after a brief look says “mortar it” which I did. The round ejected into the grass. I put the mag back in, pulled the charging handle back and let it fly. Bolt did not close all the way. Almost but not quite. Instructor says, hit the forward assist. No, thinks me and pulls the charging handle back, eject that round and let go of the CH. Same thing, bolt didn’t close. Instructor says, that’s that Tula ammo. Builds up residue in the chamber over time. Reasons like that are why you have a forward assist. I ejected that round and removed myself from the firing line.

I went to the work bench and separated the upper from the lower. I passed a cleaning rod from the muzzle toward the chamber and encountered an obstruction. Turns out the bullet from the round I had to mortar out was lodged in the throat. A couple smacks on the cleaning rod with a mallet and out came that bullet, lightly engraved from the rifling.

Later at home I pulled down some of the Tula rounds and used my Stoney Point OAL tool and found out all the Tula was too long for my throat by (IIRC) about .045-.050.”

Had I followed the instructor’s direction it could have been a really bad day!

“Experts!”
 
See you knew the right thing to do and it saved you from a terrible mistake/tragedy.. Folks need to becareful and do things correctly to avoid unpleasant surprises. I was shooting a.... well a 6.... a ummm 6.5 something the other day. I had some ammo in a plastic baggie. ( I Throw ammo that I don't have room for in plastic boxes in quart baggies to load more ammo and store the baggies in ammo cans. Sorry side tracked) Well some how a single 308 round was in said baggie. I had loaded it in the magazine (Slipped by me there). I attempted to chamber it and it almost went in. Had I slammed the bolt forward during a second attempt I may have pushed the bullet deep into the case and had a bad day. But I went, "That aint right!" and inspected the round realizing it was a 308.... Tragedy averted by slowing down and doing the right thing..
 
I kind of think the forward assist wouldn't have been enough, would have to drive the bullet of the round being chambered back into the case by a substantial amount. But I'm glad I didn't try to find out! You know what they say about something-something and finding out.
 
Even experts can make the wrong decision when they don't take the time to analyze all the information. I know that now those same guys teach that if your carbine fails to function, first do a quick "tap and rack" and if it still is non functional, go to your handgun to get yourself out of trouble. Worry about what's wrong with the carbine later. Hey maybe my little situation there contributed to their evolution of training!
 
The forward assist is a good feature designed for the time. Infantry didn't carry hammers and they didn't carry a backup. During training and civilian deployment, there is always time to check the bore. We have developed immediate action drills, but not all are appropriate for all conditions. You did good to further check the cause and effect.
 
The forward assist is a good feature designed for the time. Infantry didn't carry hammers and they didn't carry a backup. During training and civilian deployment, there is always time to check the bore. We have developed immediate action drills, but not all are appropriate for all conditions. You did good to further check the cause and effect.
I doubt a little bit that on a two-way range I would have kept such a cool head!
 
Is it just me or has anyone else noticed that each case, like this, where someone had this type of incident, not one of them, after extracting the case, took the time to clear the weapon of all loaded ammo, and look down the barrel or run a cleaning rod through it to see if something, i.e. the bullet was lodged in the bore ?
Seems like they just assume ( you know what that stand for) the bore is clear and they attempt to load and fire another round. Some go bang and cause more harm, or like in this case, the new round will not allow the bolt to lock into place, which is a good thing and at that point they finally check the bore.
 
I will admit I am ignorant to a lot of things AR.

Just had a hard does one have to hit it to get it to function?
I have never had it do what I understand for it do, made a bad problem worse.
 
Just had a hard does one have to hit it to get it to function?

Not exactly sure what your are asking, but to clarify, how hard do you have to hit the forward assist to function? If that is the question.....

It's designed for thumb pressure. Although when there are incoming rounds on the 2-way range, I have seen guys beat it with their palms. If several rapid hard presses with a thumb doesn't force battery, seek another solution.
 
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I think what the civilian shooter encounters as far as a chambering problem, is a lot different than the military does from my understanding with the forward assist.

I have witnessed guys beating on it with the palm of their hand, with no success.
I pushed mine years ago, never again.
 
Forward assist was a terrible idea courtesy of the US military that insisted on having it on the M-16. Never used it on my M-16s(dating myself) and won't use it on my ARs although they all have one except my 9mm build.

Encountered the same situation as the OP with a "5.56 NATO" BCA barrel on one of the AR builds. It had absolutely zero freebore. Glad I only tried some PMC Bronze .223 in it instead of 5.56. Blew the primer on the first round. Dropped the mag and tried to extract the chambered round and had to mortar it, dumping powder into the fire control groups and leaving the bullet stuck tightly in the lands.

The rod I keep in my range bag made removal pretty easy, but it took a few good whacks to free the obstruction.

I have since, replaced the barrel and all is as it should be with that rifle.
 

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