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Customer buys a "high end" 22 LR bolt gun. Doesn't buy any ammo.
Brings the gun back the next week complaining that it wont keep hits on a paper plate at 25 yards and when they do hit it looks like the are sideways.
Gun store owner, a Viet Nam era Marine, asked to see the ammo he was using.
.... wait for it.
It was 17 HMR.
17 Mach2 ammo perhaps, there is no way that a 17HMR will chamber in a 22 LR

drover
 
I shot at a local range a lot in Denver, Co. Anyway I was asked to help sight in customer rifles for deer season. Being a bench rest shooter I used my front rest and rear bags to sight the rifles in. I actually had a guy tell me to sight in his rifle off hand because he wouldn't be shooting off a bench in the field. true story!
WAY more common than you know. I've worked how many deer rifle sight-ins and tell people, to get the rifle sighted in, you have to take as much of the human element out of it as you can. Then shoot offhand and see how you are doing. Quite often I get the, "Thats not how we do it." Then they can't get decent groups to save their life.
 
WAY more common than you know. I've worked how many deer rifle sight-ins and tell people, to get the rifle sighted in, you have to take as much of the human element out of it as you can. Then shoot offhand and see how you are doing. Quite often I get the, "Thats not how we do it." Then they can't get decent groups to save their life.
The zero can vary by ~ 1 MOA depending on how the rifle is held. For example, off the bench vs off sticks or vs off hand.
I don't hunt anything other than squirrels so don't know if that ~ 1 MOA would make a difference, but it is there.
 
A guy I know that actually worked at a rifle shop…
“ I killed a coyote at 800yds with a …..”
Me-“ Wow!, how many minutes did you dial?”
He said “ bout that high over his back” and proceeded to show me with his hands what equated to be about a foot and a half.
 
And here I was hoping sound shooting was just a joke ! o_O
An acquaintance's son shot and killed his best friend while hunting. Thought his friend was a deer approaching in the brush. The story, as told to me, never seemed to add up, but the authorities chalked it up to a tragedy. The boy did dive heavily into alcohol abuse following that.

I've heard lots of fudd idiocy, but the one that really chaps my arse is the time a friend comes back to the table where we are having breakfast with his family and hands me a fully loaded, condition 0 pistol - though I
didn't know that at the time. Out of habit, pointed the gun in a safe direction, dropped the mag (loaded), locked the slide back and out popped a round. I wish I had a picture of my face as I looked back at him, it would have been pure anger.
 
He bolted the Leupold one piece mount, the one that has that interference dovetail fit in the front. He then installed the scope in the front mount and, just like a lug wrench, twisted it into place with the scope.

I immediately went to the salesman and told him what we just saw, and that was unacceptable,
He went and got the ”gunsmith” who stated it was no big deal, he did that all the time.

We demanded they get a new scope. I told him I did not need his “free installation”, I would take care of it.

I’m not sore if you call their actions ignorance, stupidity, or just didn’t care.
There's a few shops around here where the kids behind the counter do simple gun work like that. I don't let them touch anything but I'd chalk it up to ignorance more than anything else. If the shop owner knew what they were doing themselves they would know their employees don't understand what they're doing. Since the shop owners don't understand gun work themselves, they let ignorant managers train ignorant employees and substandard work becomes normal.
 
Guy at one of our sight-in days had one of those, but in a 7mm rem mag. After two boxes of ammo, his target looked like someone had shot buckshot at a 25yd target. He wanted me to shoot it and see if it was grouping. I did two shots and had enough. Guys shoulder was just black and blue. Another one, a guy bought one (300wm) for his wife to go elk hunting. Three shots and she was on the waiting bench, tears running down her cheeks, rubbing her shoulder, saying "it hurts". Told her a 260 or 7-08 was all she needed as she planned only shooting out to about 200yds
 
Guy at one of our sight-in days had one of those, but in a 7mm rem mag. After two boxes of ammo, his target looked like someone had shot buckshot at a 25yd target. He wanted me to shoot it and see if it was grouping. I did two shots and had enough. Guys shoulder was just black and blue. Another one, a guy bought one (300wm) for his wife to go elk hunting. Three shots and she was on the waiting bench, tears running down her cheeks, rubbing her shoulder, saying "it hurts". Told her a 260 or 7-08 was all she needed as she planned only shooting out to about 200yds
Crap like that is what causes people to hate guns and shooting.
 
The zero can vary by ~ 1 MOA depending on how the rifle is held. For example, off the bench vs off sticks or vs off hand.
I don't hunt anything other than squirrels so don't know if that ~ 1 MOA would make a difference, but it is there.
I know. The problem is people not even getting close because they can't/won't hold the rifle steady. It's why I said, get the rifle as close as possible, THEN shoot offhand or some facsimile of. But, trying to get a zero when you can't hold steady is a waste of time. Mine especially.
 
Yeah. I told her that I think that he really bought the gun he did, as he wanted it and knew she wouldn't like it and would let him have it. She got this "look" in her eyes as she looked at her hubby shooting it and said "I think you just might be right". Don't think the rest of the day was going to go so well for him!!
 

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