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things worth doing, watching, reading

snert said:
In the interst of respectful discourse, I will respond that I believe that every man and woman is created in the image of God. Before Him they are co-equal. One is not better, or worse, than the other.

That said, I believe that when it comes to war fighting, men should do it. Roles, and Goals.

I think men should be chivalrous, and that the highest calling is to protect our ladies and our children.

I think that such a view properly places the value of our girls where it belongs.

I do not think that diminishes a woman at all. Some ladies will think otherwise. In response, I would simply say that I do not think we expect enough of our men.
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However, while we're out fighting (doing the mans work)
The women could be doing the paper work
We still need Pogues
Respectfully,
John
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At the same time, I have been humbled and very impressed with some womens shooting abilties
They seem to be able to multi-task better, as they were created for
(Children, cooking dinner, cleaning the house etc all at the same time)
where as men, are too hyper focused and seem to have a one track mind
I know as for myself
when I am busy or focusing on my job, My ears totally turn off, my brain cuts off any outside interference.
These two different aspects
Can be developed upon with further training.
But in general I still agree with you
Case in Point:
There has never been a famale Navy Seal
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Your statement of
"we do not expect enough of our men"
is right on point
Too much feminization of our current male population
And I see females becoming more dominant
That can be easily fixed if men were to actually become men
(do i need to say it?)
Take your balls out of her purse and
Stop asking your wifes permission, anything
it should be the other way around. She should be asking YOUR permission
Be the Man, Even if it means divorce,
Let her realize she needs a man to simply survive... it is not the other way around
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This being said
I am all for women shooters, and women being trained to protect the homefront, clear their own house
etc. while their man is doing what a man should. providing for his family.
In my unit, all the women/wives are also trained
including their 11 year old daughters
It is how America should be
This is...............a GUN NATION
 
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Okay Folks enough already ... after 3 pages and 45 posts, I'm wondering what in Christ happened to the original question?

To refresh, it was: what's your newer or older favorite "doing," movie, TV show-series, or book. A couple of Posters (including me) answered, but the rest of you have meandered off into a host of unrelated social issues, personal histories, military-based experiences, medical issues, and/or other subjects. I've been on this site for over 12 years, and have seen this happen more times than I care to remember.

So, here's a question that I've asked before: Why in Hell can't anyone stay on (a) topic? Why is everyone so frigging obsessed with sharing their personal history in an open forum, they just have to do so? :confused:

Well that's two questions. But, being at wit's end with this issue, any answers will be much appreciated.

And I mean no disrespect to those veterans and their service, who have chimed in. I too served in the U.S. Army from '65-67'.

SJ
 
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OK so you want to have some kind of service for all to teach teens discipline. Armed forces or peace corps your choice. How are they going to learn anything in a system that allows an election to be swayed by a bogus Steele dossier from another more corrupt counties intelligence service? They could learn insider trading form Nancy Mitch and lately MTG. In the armed forces they could learn how to prosecute a navy seal with bought and paid for testimony? They could learn how form NGOs and steal tax money at a rate never heard of before. I agree with what you guys are saying, but there needs to be a whole lot of fixing and people held accountable in government and any public service before my kids can learn anything better than they learned at home from mom and dad. Fix the USA first, hold the guilty accountable then worry about kids living in moms basement when government is honest.
 
SmittyJon said:
Okay Folks enough already ... after 3 pages and 45 posts, I'm wondering what in Christ happened to the original question?

To refresh, it was: what's your newer or older favorite "doing," movie, TV show-series, or book. A couple of Posters (including me) answered, but the rest of you have meandered off into a host of unrelated social issues, personal histories, military-based experiences, medical issues, and/or other subjects. I've been on this site for over 12 years, and have seen this happen more times than I care to remember.

So, here's a question that I've asked before: Why in Hell can't anyone stay on (a) topic? Why is everyone so frigging obsessed with sharing their personal history in an open forum, they just have to do so? :confused:

Well that's two questions. But, being at wit's end with this issue, any answers will be much appreciated.

And I mean no disrespect to those veterans and their service, who have chimed in. I too served in the U.S. Army from '65-67'.

SJ
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So, here's a question that I've asked before: Why in Hell can't anyone stay on (a) topic? Why is everyone so frigging obsessed with sharing their personal history in an open forum, they just have to do so?

Because people possess the need to pontificate. I'm afraid it's just human nature.

Few today want to sit back and JUST LISTEN to an (any) old man's story from their past or their thoughts.

And as I type this I'm thinking now I'm pontificating.........that damn human nature thing again
 
357Mag said:
Sw282 -

Howdy !

IMHO -

Enlistments need to be longer than 2yr, if for no other reason than mechanical /
technical MIL carreer fields can require multiple tech schools; spaced over multiple years…in-addition to self-paced,self-study “ carreer development courses “.

In the Air National Guard experience that I had ( as an example ), aircraft mechanics entered tech school for their “ Air Force Speciality Code “ ( AFSC ) immediately after graduation from basic. Thereafter, they graduated from tech school with a “3 skill level“…. basically “ apprentice “ level. As they advanced through their enlistment, part of being promotable…besides “ time in grade/time in service “…was mechanics also completed extra skills training through self study “carreer development courses”
( CDCs ). After completion of the required CDC, the mechanic was awarded a 5 skill level.

At the end of an initial 6yr enlistment, it was not uncommon within most aircraft systems repair specialities for the mechanic to be an E-5 with a 5 skill level, or “ Journeyman “
The Air Force, ANG, and Air Force reserve get a lot of stuff done, via the contributions of their assigned 3 and 5 skill level enlisted personnel.

But, higher skill levels and higher levels of supervision are also required, and that leads to things like “ 7 level “ E-6s and above. But, ya gotta be first an 3 level, and then progress to being a 5 level…. before you can become trained to the 7 skill level or
“ Craftsman “. The services have to “ grow their own “. “ On-the-job-training “ ( OJT ) is the axle that the trainig wheel rotates on, and 7 levels train 5 skill levels and 3 skill levels; with the help of 5 levels passing on what they know by helping train 3 levels.

In the “ Air Guard “, “ weekenders “ could/ would many times stay in for 20yr, and could see themselves reach E-6 and above pay grades, and 7 skill level.

My point:
The Air Guard ( and other services ) can’t operate with forces predominantly occupied by troops w/ just 2yr commitments. There has to be a reasonably sized pool of highly trained/highly skilled “ journeymen “ and “ craftsmen “ on-strength; also.


With regards,
357Mag
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agree 100%. absolutely need to teach skilled mechanical skills.
 
ogre1911 said:
So, here's a question that I've asked before: Why in Hell can't anyone stay on (a) topic? Why is everyone so frigging obsessed with sharing their personal history in an open forum, they just have to do so?

Because people possess the need to pontificate. I'm afraid it's just human nature.

Few today want to sit back and JUST LISTEN to an (any) old man's story from their past or their thoughts.

And as I type this I'm thinking now I'm pontificating.........that damn human nature thing again
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Great observations Ogre. Several weeks ago, a good friend and Poster to these Forums asked a benchrest reloading question. The 1st 2 or 3 replies provided good, solid, actionable advice, and then it went downhill from there. Without checking I think the thread went on for a couple of pages with little - if anything to do - with the original question.

So, based on my observations alone, it appears that if a Poster asks a specific question, only the first few replies are going to contain an answer. Posts beyond those just meander into off-topic subjects, fact-less assertions, personal opinions, and usually incorrect, but oft repeated rumors.

I'm reminded of the "Rumor Game," we played in grade school. The teacher would whisper to a pupil in the front row, "A white cat went into a coal bin and came out black. Pass it on."

When the story got to last pupil, the teacher asked him or her to repeat it. The answer was always something like, "We had pizza and root beer at the local Pizza Hut." :D

Maybe the same thing is going on here? As always, I could be wrong ...

SJ
 
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"if you have conscription, you don't have a free country" Senator Barry Goldwater, also a Reserve, flight qualified officer. The military and many people could benefit by service, a 'clerk typist' doesn't need to be trained or qualified for combat. Jag officers don't need to be 'jump qualified' for the airborne. Improve the quality of care for our vets, volunteer recruitment may increase. The poor way we treat our vets is unbelievable. We applied 'agent orange' not the enemy.
 
SmittyJon said:
Great observations Ogre. Several weeks ago, a good friend and Poster to these Forums asked a benchrest reloading question. The 1st 2 or 3 replies provided good, solid, actionable advice, and then it went downhill from there. Without checking I think the thread went on for a couple of pages with little - if anything to do - with the original question.

So, based on my observations alone, it appears that if a Poster asks a specific question, only the first few replies are going to contain an answer. Posts beyond those just meander into off-topic subjects, fact-less assertions, personal opinions, and usually incorrect, but oft repeated rumors.

I'm reminded of the "Rumor Game," we played in grade school. The teacher would whisper to a pupil in the front row, "A white cat went into a coal bin and came out black. Pass it on."

When the story got to last pupil, the teacher asked him or her to repeat it. The answer was always something like, "We had pizza and root beer at the local Pizza Hut." :D

Maybe the same thing is going on here? As always, I could be wrong ...

SJ
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A quick observation: Very few of us read the first question, or much less the first ten answers. Once it goes to page two, most of the repsonses are responses to the last few (or even just the last) comment.

As far as pontificating...this thread has opened genuine discussion on some deep values and moral questions. But to return to the OP question:

Centenial (Michener?)
I am starting on www.mission119.org and find it a great endeavor.
Hey @jds holler you would like this...
I also like Stand by Me, Das Boot, Sand Pebbles, as well as grilling dead animals and fowl on the grill for friends and large groups. So, let me know if ya'll want to get together in Western PA. For a very small donation each, I will feed and entertain up to 30 in my back yard. Just saying.
 
SmittyJon said:
Okay Folks enough already ... after 3 pages and 45 posts, I'm wondering what in Christ happened to the original question?

To refresh, it was: what's your newer or older favorite "doing," movie, TV show-series, or book. A couple of Posters (including me) answered, but the rest of you have meandered off into a host of unrelated social issues, personal histories, military-based experiences, medical issues, and/or other subjects. I've been on this site for over 12 years, and have seen this happen more times than I care to remember.

So, here's a question that I've asked before: Why in Hell can't anyone stay on (a) topic? Why is everyone so frigging obsessed with sharing their personal history in an open forum, they just have to do so? :confused:

Well that's two questions. But, being at wit's end with this issue, any answers will be much appreciated.

And I mean no disrespect to those veterans and their service, who have chimed in. I too served in the U.S. Army from '65-67'.

SJ
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The OP opened the door in his post #3.
By the way. I’m US Army, ‘’67/68. My service number started with US.
 
Things worth doing? A walk in the woods. Playing with the dog. Speaking on the phone with the kids. Going fishing. Taking a motorcycle ride. Speaking with the people who pay me for the opportunity to camp here. Planning for TD-6. Working on guns, cars, bikes, machinery.
Reading? I have some books which are like old friends and bear re-reading. "The Travels of Jamie McPheeters", by Robert Lewis Taylor, is one. "Dangerous River", by RM Patterson is another. "One flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest", by Ken Kesey. "Huckleberry Finn", Mark Twain. I've got a room full of them.
Things to watch? Oh, my. The existence of Netflix and Amazon Prime makes it too easy for a member of the mature demographic to sit on the couch. I'm not sure how much is worth watching, but I'll confess to wasting some time which could easily be better spent.
Another US '69 to '71. Obligatory service was probably a good thing. Though it might not have seemed like it at the time, it was a privilege which can be appreciated in retrospect. WH
 
Came in the house yesterday afternoon and the wife had just started watching "The Green Mile". Yep, parked my butt and watch the whole thing. For the umpteenth time.
 
AWRITE ALLREADY!!!

As to the OP's title, things worth doing, watching, reading,
I'm gonna go with "Saving Private Ryan" and "Lonesome Dove".
My reading lately, I'm sticking pretty much to Bible, or Bible oriented stuff. -- except for WAAYY too much time on these forums.
OOPS!! There's a squirrel!! Gotta go. jd
 
Tucker Carlson’s show with a guest who discussed the Shroud of Turin and what research has revealed.
With the technology we have today, we cannot re-produce the image on that shroud. If you love Jesus, it will probably make you cry.
 
Will Henry said:
Things worth doing? A walk in the woods. Playing with the dog. Speaking on the phone with the kids. Going fishing. Taking a motorcycle ride. Speaking with the people who pay me for the opportunity to camp here. Planning for TD-6. Working on guns, cars, bikes, machinery.
Reading? I have some books which are like old friends and bear re-reading. "The Travels of Jamie McPheeters", by Robert Lewis Taylor, is one. "Dangerous River", by RM Patterson is another. "One flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest", by Ken Kesey. "Huckleberry Finn", Mark Twain. I've got a room full of them.
Things to watch? Oh, my. The existence of Netflix and Amazon Prime makes it too easy for a member of the mature demographic to sit on the couch. I'm not sure how much is worth watching, but I'll confess to wasting some time which could easily be better spent.
Another US '69 to '71. Obligatory service was probably a good thing. Though it might not have seemed like it at the time, it was a privilege which can be appreciated in retrospect. WH
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That Netflix and Amazon stuff is pretty entertaining till they pull the political correctness stuff on you. I have no problem turning it off at that point.
 
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