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The most under-rated centerfire cartridge......???

Re: The most under-rated centerfire cartride......???

3 - 6.5X55 - Popular everywhere else but not in North America. Must be our aversion to the metric system.

This metric aversion certainly used to be true. I saw a few people remember the 280. I know it is a generation later, but; why in the world did we ever need a 277 bullet? The 257 and 358 been around a long time, but what the heck did we had to invent a 277? Then dont ask me how I feel about 177 or 204 either. This is not the forum.
 
Re: The most under-rated centerfire cartride......???

Another vote for the .250 Savage. What a great cartridge that is capable of so much and is never given a second thought.
 
Re: The most under-rated centerfire cartride......???

SmokinJoe said:
Just my $.02 worth, but did anybody mention the 20VarTarg or the 40 degree version, 20SCC or 20-221 Fireball AI. These tiny cartridges perform way beyond what anybody would expect in the PD fields.

I agree with Joe....

What about the .17 Ackley Hornet, 6mm Remington, .17 Remington...

Phil.
 
Re: The most under-rated centerfire cartride......???

.300 savage and if you want a doall gun the 30-06 is by far the best off the shelf caliber however the .308 can almost equal or almost exceed the 30-06 with the advent of newer powders and projo's.
 
+3 to the 250 Savage. Think about it. It is as close to being obsolete yet still hanging on as any cartridge out there. It is, IMHO, the smallest cartridge suitable for use on big game which makes it perfect for new shooters, kids, women and those who have trouble hitting the x-ring due to recoil. Generous body taper that allows positive feeding, sufficient neck length to accommodate the gamut of bullets available. Loaded with lighter bullets it is a superb varmint cartridge. Serves as great platform to build upon for those wanting an Ackley Improved cartridge. 250 Savage = epitome of an underdog.
 
Seeing the "Shoots 16 miles and can drop a T-Rex in one shot" immediately reminded me of the gun I got to see in action that would literally shoot 16 miles and could definitely drop a T-Rex...........the 16 inch guns on board the USS Iowa which I served on in the late 80's. Now those were some GUNS!!! 8)
 
I would say the .222 rem. as well. Just like mentioned before it is over shadowed by the .223. I own both and enjoy shooting both but enjoy the .222 a little more. I think because it's not as popular now days and because they are so inherently accurate and because of the longer neck. I know the .222 had its time in the spotlight for short range BR, but not so much anymore.
 
IA_shooter said:
Seeing the "Shoots 16 miles and can drop a T-Rex in one shot" immediately reminded me of the gun I got to see in action that would literally shoot 16 miles and could definitely drop a T-Rex...........the 16 inch guns on board the USS Iowa which I served on in the late 80's. Now those were some GUNS!!! 8)

I get it IA == Iowa. These guns were fascinating. The navy really should keep one active. History, pride. Like the US Constitution, it not just all about cost effective.

These guns were 50 calibers long—or 50 times their 16-inch (406 mm) bore diameter which makes the barrels 66.6 feet (20 m) long, from breechface to muzzle. Each gun weighed about 239,000 pounds (108,000 kg) without the breech, or 267,900 pounds (121,517 kg) with the breech.[1] They fired projectiles weighing from 1,900 to 2,700 pounds (850 to 1,200 kg) at a maximum speed of 2,690 feet per second (820 m/s) with a range of up to 24 miles (39 km). At maximum range the projectile spent almost 1½ minutes in flight.[1] Each turret required a crew of 79 men to operate.[1]
 
The term "underrated" to me means something that is very effective or useful for its intended purpose but not appreciated or used by many people.

Keeping that in mind, I'm not sure how people think the 30-06 is underrated? Just about every gun toting red neck in America owns one. It has worked, does work, and always will work for hunting. Theres no question about that.

My vote for an underrated cartridge would be the 6.5 Remington Magnum. Low recoil, blazing fast speeds that give it a very flat long range trajectory, and exceptional accuracy for hunting. Yet not many folks have ever owned or even fired one. They dont know what they're missing.

Underrated varmint cartridges? Who cares. They are all effective on gophers, p-dogs, and coyotes. None of the .378" bolt face cartridges are much more effective than the next one.

The 22 Hornet is not underrated. Its effective at closer ranges. It CANNOT perform the same as a 223 or 204 Ruger at longer ranges. So i believe it is rated properly as a less effective cartridge.
 
Under rated in my mind something that exhibits great performance but never really valued by the masses of people or by the major manufacture.
Which is sort of the same. If the manufactures thought it would sell to the masses they would do it.
6 mm PPC
 
fourbore said:
IA_shooter said:
Seeing the "Shoots 16 miles and can drop a T-Rex in one shot" immediately reminded me of the gun I got to see in action that would literally shoot 16 miles and could definitely drop a T-Rex...........the 16 inch guns on board the USS Iowa which I served on in the late 80's. Now those were some GUNS!!! 8)

I get it IA == Iowa. These guns were fascinating. The navy really should keep one active. History, pride. Like the US Constitution, it not just all about cost effective.

These guns were 50 calibers long—or 50 times their 16-inch (406 mm) bore diameter which makes the barrels 66.6 feet (20 m) long, from breechface to muzzle. Each gun weighed about 239,000 pounds (108,000 kg) without the breech, or 267,900 pounds (121,517 kg) with the breech.[1] They fired projectiles weighing from 1,900 to 2,700 pounds (850 to 1,200 kg) at a maximum speed of 2,690 feet per second (820 m/s) with a range of up to 24 miles (39 km). At maximum range the projectile spent almost 1½ minutes in flight.[1] Each turret required a crew of 79 men to operate.[1]

This inspired me to look for old footage. That is some serious BOOM! I think we still need these kind of "force projectors" to deal with an increasing number of varmints. And we need someone in charge who has the ba$$ to use it.
 
Under rated?

That would be a 17 Remington. If you have ever had one and spent time shooting varmints, it's an outstanding cartridge. Wasn't well received by the public when introduced and had a reputation for fouling barrels, which by the way is not true.

If you look at the ballistics, the drop of a 25 gr bullet at 4100 fps has a better trajectory than a 55 gr bullet from a 223. Less recoil and can see all your prairie dog explosions. Definitely under rated.

Surprised the 17 Fireball didn't catch on, but by then the 20 calibers were popular and have better ballistics.
 
In the USA, anything with 8mm in the name...

Are Americans still not over getting shot at by the MG42?

8X57 Mauser in particular. Flattens deer even better than the '06, but just TRY to find a box of factory ammo loaded to full power with a modern bullet design. Or even new components to load your own!
 

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