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The Great Powder Shortage of 2020 is upon us

It's the end of the world mentality. When everyone panics and buys guns, ammo, components, it send prices sky high with gougers screwing the consumer. Happens Everytime people freak out over something that is fairly temporary. I'm all for buying all the above and certainly think we as shooters, hunters etc should, but it causes what's happening. Hard to get upset with a cause and effect situation. Especially when the consumer is causing it. Fueled of course by the fake media. Maybe not in this particular case but the media did start the "Sky is falling" reports way before anyone knew how bad it would get here in this country. Remember, Trump once again was the bad guy for trying to keep people calm minimizing this thing. Didn't work.
 
Evan said:
I'd argue that buying up large amounts of components all at once is a rude, anti-social behavior. Carrying this practice over to a different situation: would you say it is polite to your community to walk into the grocery store once a year and buy every gallon of milk in the fridge?

Now, if you like to keep 150 pounds of powder on hand, and replace what you use as you go in smaller increments of 8 or 16 pounds at a time per type, that's hardly the same thing as going out and buying 150 pounds of powder, emptying the shelves all at once, and causing a local shortage.

I like keeping enough components for 3 years of shooting and I replace as I go in smaller increments: a single case of 5k primers at a time, an 8lb jug of powder, 1000 bullets. I feel like this practice makes it easier on the whole supply chain to judge and keep up with demand: from the store I walk in to all the way back to the manufacturer, my purchasing stays steady so that they can plan around it.
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how about this. remember John Denver had industrial size gas storage tank on his land with thousand of gallons of gas? say a rich guy moved into your town put 2- 10K gallon storage tanks in and when a disaster was coming bought all the gas in town and the people had none. would all the guys here say he is very smart to be prepared OR would they call him a %*@!%$#&?
 
It’s hard to believe that a thread like this is even here. We’ve seen shortages before and I thought we had learned from it. We’re smarter than that. I have never been short of components because I plan, as a rule, beyond the next presidential election. This would have to last another eleven years if my figures are right. I’m not hoarding; I’m prepared for the future and it isn’t hoarding if you are using it.
 
Uthink Uknow said:
It’s hard to believe that a thread like this is even here. We’ve seen shortages before and I thought we had learned from it. We’re smarter than that. I have never been short of components because I plan, as a rule, beyond the next presidential election. This would have to last another eleven years if my figures are right. I’m not hoarding; I’m prepared for the future and it isn’t hoarding if you are using it.
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Not saying your that guy but I disagree. It may not be called hoarding but it's the me, myself and I mentality. A guy at Walmart last week told a stock boy to take a whole pallet of Scott toilet paper out to his trailer. Before he could, the manager said "No sir, only two per person". The fella said "where does it say that "? The manager said " I just told you". Done deal. Everyone was able to get TP that day. That mentality is BS. It's not the end of times. If you accumulate quantities or in times when the demand isn't high, I suppose it's not an issue. Today, it's an issue. Gun powder, brass and primers are in the same category. Just my opinion.
 
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I'll buy 3000-5000 primers at any given time, 500-1000 pieces of brass and 3-8 lbs jugs of powder all at different times and over time they all accumulate. Well, in the end, I've accumulated a truck load. Way different than doing it all at one time when this type of thing is going on. That's what makes being prepared vs being an idiot different from each other. Again...Strictly my opinion.
 
I didn't think too much of it until I saw the 2nd car driving down the road with a load of new gas cans on the roof this last Sunday.
 

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LGS had 5 lbs of 8208xbr, benchmark, a lot of IMR, full line of alliant including arcomp. However, they did not have any Trailboss. :(
 
wedgy said:
I didn't think too much of it until I saw the 2nd car driving down the road with a load of new gas cans on the roof this last Sunday.
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I was asked if I was going to hoard gasoline yesterday when I purchased 2 5 gallon cans for the deer lease. I have 2 old cans that needed replacing, so for now I am going to fill them and set them in the shed in case of an emergency, really don't know if we will get to hunt turkey this spring with all this corona virus going on.

As for reloading components, I bought my bulk of powder, bullets and brass a little at a time as several others in this discussion have when their was no shortage. I like to be prepared for instances such as this current episode well before it happens.
 
284winner said:
I disagree. It may not be called hoarding but it's the me, myself and I mentality. A guy at Walmart last week told a stock boy to take a whole pallet of Scott toilet paper out to his trailer. Before he could, the manager said "No sir, only two per person". The fella said "where does it say that "? The manager said " I just told you". Done deal. Everyone was able to get TP that day. That mentality is BS. It's not the end of times. If you accumulate quantities or in times when the demand isn't high, I suppose it's not an issue. Today, it's an issue. Gun powder, brass and primers are in the same category. Just my opinion.
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yes me myself and I mentality is almost criminal. and leads to it when money is involved. that guy should have been wrapped in toilet paper like a mummy and buried alive. guys were buying pallets of 22 ammo at 3 in the morning at walmart
 
Go online today and try and find toilet paper or Clorox wipes. Go into any big company store and you won't find any. As soon as the arrive, someone loads up all the items and heads for home. It's silliness that drives the cost over the top. Go to eBay and TP is 24.00 for a 4 pack. Clorox wipes are 30.00 for 4. Ridiculous. We're our own worse enemies. Believe it, the powders, primers and brass are next. Then .22 ammo will be extinct. It was so easy to blame the Obama administration but it's us that causes it. His administration may have been the excuse but we ruined the product availability not his administration. I'd love to blame him too. Just hard too.
 
Went to Academy and some pistol display cases were as bare as a Walmart toilet paper aisle. Ammo shelves were almost as bare as old Russian supermarket pictures. No shotguns, ARs, .22 rifles and line of people to look at the .380s, about all they had aside from .22 pistols. Didn't look more as I just passed through.

I wonder if there'll be some good used gun sales months later when people decide they don't need the pieces they bought. Should be good business for chain stores and LGSs and wonder what it's gonna be like closer to election time:confused:.
 
Out of curiosity I went to the LGS and scored a jug of Varget... Last one on the shelf so I bought it..
He said it has been busy the last few days. He sold 4 jugs of RL-16 in just a couple hours after he set them out..
 
I walked into a store today and a guy walked in behind me. when they asked him what he was looking for he said 300 dollars of 9mm ammo. Another guy as I walked out of the powder section had a double arm load of rifle ammo all flavors. All the sales guys had safes open it was crazy.
 
Evan said:
I'd argue that buying up large amounts of components all at once is a rude, anti-social behavior. Carrying this practice over to a different situation: would you say it is polite to your community to walk into the grocery store once a year and buy every gallon of milk in the fridge?

Now, if you like to keep 150 pounds of powder on hand, and replace what you use as you go in smaller increments of 8 or 16 pounds at a time per type, that's hardly the same thing as going out and buying 150 pounds of powder, emptying the shelves all at once, and causing a local shortage.

I like keeping enough components for 3 years of shooting and I replace as I go in smaller increments: a single case of 5k primers at a time, an 8lb jug of powder, 1000 bullets. I feel like this practice makes it easier on the whole supply chain to judge and keep up with demand: from the store I walk in to all the way back to the manufacturer, my purchasing stays steady so that they can plan around it.
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Sounds like you are not doing a lot of shooting. Between load development for multiple rifles and competitions of various sorts many here would burn through that stash in a couple months.
 
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