The buds gun shop RR remington timing

[garandman]

Then buy a $150 rest and squeeze the rear bag. You will win matches if your rifles tuned the best and you can read wind. Thats the assumptions Im talking about. If you have a real interest in learning what BR is, show up to a match. Im sure you will find guys willing to do anything they can to get you give it a shot.

Right. Thats basically what I do.... well I actually bought the $30 sandbag and spent $ 16 and made this front rest:



And yes I am quite certain the pure bench rest guys are awesome wonderful people who would probably let me shoot their gun and ammo. I hope everyone understands I am in no way be smirching or insulting them and their choices. It's just not for me.

I would hope my choices and preferences are OK with everybody else to…

 

[garandman]

I’m a bit late to this morning’s party..
What’s a $1000 lock down joystick rest ? I’m not sure I’ve seen one of those.

This:



Its just not for me. That OK with folks?

 

[butchlambert]

Right. Thats basically what I do.... well I actually bought the $30 sandbag and spent $ 16 and made this front rest:

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And yes I am quite certain the pure bench rest guys are awesome wonderful people who would probably let me shoot their gun and ammo. I hope everyone understands I am in no way be smirching or insulting them and their choices. It's just not for me.

Looks like our big ole kitchen table. 4'x10'.

 

[garandman]

Looks like our big ole kitchen table. 4'x10'.

Its more 3 x 7'. And No joystick, or adjustment knobs or tracking feature, and my stock was not designed to pair with it.

That and I usually leave it at home and just use the concrete bench topped with carpet at the 50 yard matches.

That's the hilarious part…People say I should have 1st hand experience before I form an opinion. I extensively use concrete benches and don't prefer them. Then they call *me* argumentative for that opiniin. When its * them* arguing against my opinion, Which I have formed only for myself and don't care at all and have said nothing about what they choose to do. Lol

People are hilarious.

 

[butchlambert]

Its more 3 x 7'. And No joystick, or adjustment knobs or tracking feature, and my stock was not designed to pair with it.

That and I usually leave it at home and just use the concrete bench topped with carpet at the 50 yard matches.

That's the hilarious part…People say I should have 1st hand experience before I form an opinion. I extensively use concrete benches and don't prefer them. Then they call *me* argumentative for that opiniin. When its * them* arguing against my opinion, Which I have formed only for myself and don't care at all and have said nothing about what they choose to do. Lol

People are hilarious.

A very nice table, the 4'x10' is our table. A lot of heavy wood. WV has or has had a lot of old huge timber.

 

[Alex Wheeler]

I think the misconception is that just because some people choose to have all the expensive equipment, doesn't mean you need it to come to a match and be competitive. I do believe Tony Boyer has won a lot of matches with a Rem 700 action, squeezing a rear bag. Its not an elitist sport for deep pockets only, that mentality stops guys from giving it a try.

 

[butchlambert]

I think the misconception is that just because some people choose to have all the expensive equipment, doesn't mean you need it to come to a match and be competitive. I do believe Tony Boyer has won a lot of matches with a Rem 700 action, squeezing a rear bag. Its not an elitist sport for deep pockets only, that mentality stops guys from giving it a try.

Tony did win a lot of matches squeezing a bag until arthritis made him go to a Farley.

 

[Dgd6mm]

An argument is like sex, it takes two.

 

[butchlambert]

An argument is like sex, it takes two.

I beg to differ!

 

[garandman]

@Alex Wheeler ... fair enuf.

My initial objection was twofold… both the cost and the front rest that I see used almost exclusively.

1st, I'm not Tony Boyer and never will be. Lol

2nd… the front rest. I am told by people who compete in this discipline that you almost don't even touch the rifle... at least As compared to more a PRS style where you are literally shouldering into the rifle loading the bipod and have extensive shooter interface with it, and the hold matters significantly.

Am I wrong in that assessment?

 

[garandman]

An argument is like sex, it takes two.

Correct. All I've done is state my preferences for shooting competition.

I've said nothing about the choices or preferences others hold.

 

[Alex Wheeler]

I just used Tony as an example because everybody knows his name but your right, some guys shoot free recoil others may hold the rifle or pin it hard. I used to shoot service rifle with a sling, that game really is about how good you can hold a rifle. I just do not want to see anyone not give something a try because they think they have to have a lot of money to buy the wins. I know first hand thats not true.

 

[garandman]

A very nice table, the 4'x10' is our table. A lot of heavy wood. WV has or has had a lot of old huge timber.

Sadly that particular table was probably made in Indonesia ..... lol


We do have a good friend here in West Virginia that literally cuts down trees, Mills them in to board feet lumber and has building number of magnificent furniture pieces in our home.

 

[butchlambert]

@Alex Wheeler ... fair enuf.

My initial objection was twofold… both the cost and the front rest that I see used almost exclusively.

1st, I'm not Tony Boyer and never will be. Lol

2nd… the front rest. I am told by people who compete in this discipline that you almost don't even touched the rifle... As compared to more a PRS style where you are literally shouldering into the rifle and have extensive shooter interface with it.

Am I wrong in that assessment?

All disciplines require different equip and shooting styles. BR is about the most extreme accuracy and the small size of the groups require different methods to achieve this. Service rifle, PRS, Palma, and other off hand shooting does not require .1moa of accuracy.
No way to directly compare them.

 

[garandman]

@Alex Wheeler ... well said. Peace, bro.

 

[butchlambert]

Sadly that particular table was probably made in Indonesia ..... lol


We do have a good friend here in West Virginia that literally cuts down trees, Mills them in to board feet lumber and has building number of magnificent furniture pieces in our home.

I love WV. It started when My Grandson played football for WVU. My only complaint was having to always walk uphill!

 

[garandman]

@butchlambert ... true enuf.

I'm not really comparing PRS to bench rest.. .. more preferring one over the other.

Both are cool.

 

[garandman]

I think I'm going to quit now. Had 2 great conversations this a.m. on this subject and want to leave it at that.

Peace. Out.

 

[Dusty Stevens]

Tony always won with an old hart action. He still uses it sometimes. Never seen him with a remington although it looks like one