The buds gun shop RR remington timing

[Ledd Slinger]

I’m confused on all this timing talk, it all looks normal to me

The bolt handle is supposed to contact the angled extraction cam ramp on the receiver right before the bolt recoil lugs disengage from the receiver recoil abutments (the abutments also have an angled ramp on the edge). The bolt handle then rides up the receiver extraction cam as it is being lifted which gives mechanical assistance for the bolt to extract the fired case from the chamber. When the bolt is all the way up the case should be dislodged from the chamber and when cycled rearward there is no resistance.

Without the assistance from the extraction cam on bolt lift, the shooter has to pull hard to the rear on the bolt handle to get a fired case dislodged from the chamber.

 

[JFrank]

Got it’
Thank you my friend.

 

[butchlambert]

I am 2 for 2 on good rem 700 actions. For my edification.... would you care to give a brief explanation? Thx.

If you look closely the bolt handle is too far back from the receiver in the cocked position. As mentioned above, it will not give you the full extraction help when raising the bolt handle to extract the spent cartridge. The receiver body is excellent.

 

[rebel]

I am 2 for 2 on good rem 700 actions. For my edification.... would you care to give a brief explanation? Thx.

Garandman, there have been some actions that have been produced that the camming surfaces of the bolt and action do not jive. Therefor, you don't get that pre-extraction of the spent case and the brass can be rough to remove. That's a layman's explanation because I be one. I could imagine other problems it could cause as well.
Example - if you were looking at the rear of the action in Dusty's pic, those camming surfaces should appear like this // as opposed to l /. I hope that makes sense.
edit - sorry I was late, type slow

 

[garandman]

Thx, guys.

 

[Dusty Stevens]

It looks like poor quality from Remington why mention Buds Gun Shop

Because past threads here would lead you to believe buds sells a different remington 700

 

[JSH]

I am 2 for 2 on good rem 700 actions. For my edification.... would you care to give a brief explanation? Thx.

There is a pretty good thread around here some place on bolt timing. YouTube it and there are some good videos to show it.

 

[Bc'z]

Because past threads here would lead you to believe buds sells a different remington 700

And I thought you were showing us what is required of you to get this young'ns new shooter up to snuff.
Did you find a stock yet?

 

[Dusty Stevens]

And I thought you were showing us what is required of you to get this young'ns new shooter up to snuff.
Did you find a stock yet?

That one has been gone a month or more. Had to get a boyds for it

 

[Snuggie]

I had been shooting a 700 SA for a few years with intermittent hard to extract issues. Got much worse, bolt out of time. I was told by my smith it was an inherent issue with 700 bolts. Sent to Accu-Tig in Ankorage, Alaska. Noooo more problems at all!! Locks up tight, brass comes out like butta! Great work by a fine gentleman!

 

[butchlambert]

I had been shooting a 700 SA for a few years with intermittent hard to extract issues. Got much worse, bolt out of time. I was told by my smith it was an inherent issue with 700 bolts. Sent to Accu-Tig in Ankorage, Alaska. Noooo more problems at all!! Locks up tight, brass comes out like butta! Great work by a fine gentleman!

Actually Dan Armstrong is in Fairbanks. He is the "MAN" when it comes to the Remington for timing and extraction.

 

[Snuggie]

Actually Dan Armstrong is in Fairbanks. He is the "MAN" when it comes to the Remington for timing and extraction.

You are correct sir! Fairbanks! That he is. Told me he’s done over 12,000 of them.

 

[C.E.Smith043]

That little stamp makes me puke

 

[antelopedundee]

The worst part is that unless your pictures are reversed, they put the damn bolt on backwards

They got it right, what a be you ti ful sight!

 

[shortgrass]

I received 6 in , about 2 weeks ago, from Grice Whole Sale. All 6 lack cam engagement. Nothing new for a Rem 700. Been that way for years...

 

[antelopedundee]

Dusty, what action is that? I can see the left hand bolt and cut bottom cut out in one pic. Would be interesting to hear what some of the other guys are getting when they order bare Rem actions. I ordered the solid bottom single shot and its not bad for the price, no complaints.

Maybe a year and a half ago I bought 2 Rem 700 LH SS long actions. Sent em off to Dan D and said true as needed so if there was something amiss he would have fixed it, but the things work great.

 

[Dusty Stevens]

That little stamp makes me puke View attachment 1131974

It has one on the side too!!

 

[CT10ring]

The bolt handle is supposed to contact the angled extraction cam ramp on the receiver right before the bolt recoil lugs disengage from the receiver recoil abutments (the abutments also have an angled ramp on the edge). The bolt handle then rides up the receiver extraction cam as it is being lifted which gives mechanical assistance for the bolt to extract the fired case from the chamber. When the bolt is all the way up the case should be dislodged from the chamber and when cycled rearward there is no resistance.

Without the assistance from the extraction cam on bolt lift, the shooter has to pull hard to the rear on the bolt handle to get a fired case dislodged from the chamber.

well, there's good intel, for a very simple mechanical action. thank you. bolt hits a ramp, leverage pulls the brass backwards. cam...

 

[antelopedundee]

well, there's good intel, for a very simple mechanical action. thank you. bolt hits a ramp, leverage pulls the brass backwards. cam...

Yep. Cam, bam thank you ma'am.

 

[PRR1957]

@urbanrifleman
Just to show you the buds gun shop exclusive extraction timing
at first glance it doesnt appear to be too bad
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Then the moment it unlocks

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then the belt sander true job

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still better than the alternatives

Aside from non timing of the extraction cam, the bolt face looks like it was cut with a dull cutter, just like the 700 lefty VS I purchased back 1996, which had a host of other problems with that gun. Remington has been run by bean counters long enough now that I will not consider buying anything from what used to be my favorite brand of rifle. I now prefer Sako actions. “Quantity Over Quality”, the best way drive a company out business.