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Target scopes

KMW 1954

I have started shooting in a local rifle league that is shooting at small targets at 100/200/300yds. When I say small targets I am stating dots that can be 1" at 200yds. One target has two scoring areas, a 1/2" dot inside a 1" square requiring 3 shots of all or nothing. Meaning all three need to break the square or no score. This is shot at 200yds.

Last year I shot with an Athlon Argos 8-34X56 MRAD scope and did well. This year I had the money so I upgraded the rifle and the scope. The new scope is also an Athlon, a Helos 6-24X56 MOA. So far I have struggled to consistently but together small tight groups with this scope. So I am thinking I need a change but to what? At full magnification at distance the reticle completely obscures the center. At this time funds and budget are limited.
 
KMW 1954 said:
I have started shooting in a local rifle league that is shooting at small targets at 100/200/300yds. When I say small targets I am stating dots that can be 1" at 200yds. One target has two scoring areas, a 1/2" dot inside a 1" square requiring 3 shots of all or nothing. Meaning all three need to break the square or no score. This is shot at 200yds.

Last year I shot with an Athlon Argos 8-34X56 MRAD scope and did well. This year I had the money so I upgraded the rifle and the scope. The new scope is also an Athlon, a Helos 6-24X56 MOA. So far I have struggled to consistently but together small tight groups with this scope. So I am thinking I need a change but to what? At full magnification at distance the reticle completely obscures the center. At this time funds and budget are limited.
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That is often the complaint when using FFP scopes. At the higher powers the crosshairs, since they grow with the power settings, get too big for such a small target as you describe. You probably would be better off with a SFP scope and a fine crosshair that stays fine regardless of power setting.
 
A little on the heavy side if your constrained by weight, but
for the money, the Burris F-class sfp 8-40 x50 is a good scope.
I own one, and plan on keeping it. What was said about FFP's.
Just too big....
 
Big second to the Sightron scopes mentioned above. I have the 10-50x56 and LOVE it! Nice fine cross hair and excellent optics. Recently bought the 45x from Lance from here on the forum. You can not beat his pricing. And to top it off, you will get it in a hurry if he has them in stock. If not, I would not be surprised he could get one drop shipped direct from Sightron to your door.
 
Bill Norris said:
If weight is no issue the Arken EP-5 5 X 25 X 56 at max. mag. will allow holds on 1/8 inch dots at 100 yds. such as this target shows.
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No real difference between the Arken and either the Athlons I already have.

From looking around I have also seen the Athlon Argos BTR 10-40 SFP. I like what I see in that reticle but not so excited about some of the reviews.

At this point I am tempted to take the Argos 8-34X40 off my other rifle and putting it on the one I will be shooting.
 
You can try the Athlon 10-40
I've read the gen 2 fixed a few of the minor complaints of the gen 1
It's a good scope to start with, when on a limited budget.
Some say buy once, cry once. But until you look through a few
scopes, you won't get to really appreciate the better quality
of more expensive ones.
You need to go to a second focal plane scope.
 
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For that type of shooting, a SFP scope with an 1/8" dot would be perfect.

Sightrons SIII series 36 and 45s with ED glass are very good as are their 8-32 and 10-50 variables.

The SII 36 scopes are a heck of a good scope for not a lot of money. I've had 4-5 and all worked well. The optics on the SIII ED scopes are better, of course.

Hope this helps. -Al
 
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Fuj said:
A little on the heavy side if your constrained by weight, but
for the money, the Burris F-class sfp 8-40 x50 is a good scope.
I own one, and plan on keeping it. What was said about FFP's.
Just too big....
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Eh,
I have a Crimson Trace Series 2 that has pretty fine lines in the reticle when the power is turned up.
It's when you turn down the power that i have an issue.

That and the weight.
One heavy @$$ scope!
 
sorry but even for local club shooting QUALITY counts.
THIN CROSSHAIS AND SMALL DOTS WORK
sightron( some have fat crosshairs)
march used, nightforce used, start at the top end and work down.
your wallet will thank you in the end.
not sure of the conditions you shoot in but a variable allows you to power down when mirage sucks
 
Yesterday by chance, I just went to ebay and typed in Burris 8-32x44. To my surprise 3 were
up for sale for $499 or Offer. One was described as a "circle plex" which told me the seller wasn't familiar with the scope. That is called a "peep plex" with medium fine crosshairs and a very small "peep circle" in the middle,
I know because I have 3 of them and they are Great in my estimation., plus the seller
offers returns and all Burris scopes have a lifetime warranty if nothing has changed.
I bought my first one from a guy that was retiring from competition shooting at the time and said it was "The Best Target Scope" he had ever owned.
No guarantees from me other than what I've stated but I'm thinking somebody is going
to get a good scope for a bargain.
One really nice thing is that you can see the target and center it without blocking it out
at all.
 
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