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Tales from the creedmoor aisle

Well I had a stainless savage 22" sporter in plastic stock, light rifle. I played with it but with HOT loads it kicked too hard so I bought a savage predator hunter with 24" fluted barrel this was back when it first came out and I had to search hard to find and buy the rifle's. Only brass was Hornady and it was crap, scrap ect. So I made brass from 308 Lapua palma I started with 100 cases and had some trial and error so I ended up with 70 good cases and I work a load up with a 140 HVLD and RL17, cci 450. I was getting 2,950 FPS from that 24" savage barrel and 1/2 MOA with nill recoil in a 10lb scoped rifle. I was quite happy and felt it was a nice cartridge. I shot one whitetail doe at 400 yards and shot a lot of paper, groundhogs and rocks with it. I liked the rifle, like the cartridge but it was still a redheaded step child at this time and most gun shops turned their nose up when I mentioned my success with it and they did not have any and did not play on having any. Well I decided I was not going to make more brass for it and I did not think we would ever see good brass for it I sold it. Well now that brass is available and you can get one chambered in most rifle's I just told a buddy the other day that I am going to buy me a 6.5 creedmore, yep I am because I know in a 8.25lb scoped rifle with good brass and a good 140 class 6.5 buller it is a nice accurate round very capable of 1,000 yards shots with low recoil. all of which I am a fan of. Plus I know how fast I can make it go.
I dont know why everyone is so kind of hard on it. it is a nice round, accurate, low recoil and a 140 6.5 is as good as anything. Why does it seem guy's have animosity tward it ? I am actually surprised it took off the way it has.
 
i love reading some of the stories you guys have out there about creedmore ppl (even though i have one and do like it).... i have a similar story but about a buddy with a 270, claimed anything with in 500 was a dead deer ( out deer hunting) so i played along..... a few days later i was going to do a little shooting and invited him over with it... started out at 100... he was good 200 he was a little high... so i asked well what you say we make the jump to 5 now.... he agreed very quickly... mind you my target at 500 - 1000 is 4x4 sheet of ply wood that staple target too... so he shoots first... 5 shots and said they felt perfect i held over ( his scope is a cabelas 4-14 with hold over lines to 300..? i think ) ... we go on out to the target and he didnt even hit ply wood.... he was dumb founded.. thought something was hanky is scoped got bumped off .... something,... go back to 100... dead on.... so i told him, might just want to limit yourself to 200 with that there setup... he got pissed at me and hasnt talked to me sense, said some how i caused him to miss at 500 because hes always on... hasnt talked to me for over a week now...
 
FJIM said:
Well I had a stainless savage 22" sporter in plastic stock, light rifle. I played with it but with HOT loads it kicked too hard so I bought a savage predator hunter with 24" fluted barrel this was back when it first came out and I had to search hard to find and buy the rifle's. Only brass was Hornady and it was crap, scrap ect. So I made brass from 308 Lapua palma I started with 100 cases and had some trial and error so I ended up with 70 good cases and I work a load up with a 140 HVLD and RL17, cci 450. I was getting 2,950 FPS from that 24" savage barrel and 1/2 MOA with nill recoil in a 10lb scoped rifle. I was quite happy and felt it was a nice cartridge. I shot one whitetail doe at 400 yards and shot a lot of paper, groundhogs and rocks with it. I liked the rifle, like the cartridge but it was still a redheaded step child at this time and most gun shops turned their nose up when I mentioned my success with it and they did not have any and did not play on having any. Well I decided I was not going to make more brass for it and I did not think we would ever see good brass for it I sold it. Well now that brass is available and you can get one chambered in most rifle's I just told a buddy the other day that I am going to buy me a 6.5 creedmore, yep I am because I know in a 8.25lb scoped rifle with good brass and a good 140 class 6.5 buller it is a nice accurate round very capable of 1,000 yards shots with low recoil. all of which I am a fan of. Plus I know how fast I can make it go.
I dont know why everyone is so kind of hard on it. it is a nice round, accurate, low recoil and a 140 6.5 is as good as anything. Why does it seem guy's have animosity tward it ? I am actually surprised it took off the way it has.
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I think a lot of folks on here would agree with me that the Creedmoor is a nice round. The problem is more with the hype that is generated about it. I’m sure that if the internet was around when the 270 or 25-06 was first commercially produced there would have been similar chatter. Go back and read some of Elmor kieths exchanges with jack O’Conner.

Again the creed is a good cartridge but I don’t think that it has a ton of improvements over some others like the 260. Problem is that folks read the reviews online and in magazines and think they can go out and become a 1000 yard or mile long game mercenaries without knowing the first thing about long range shooting, accuracy or long range hunting. I’m going to tell you that hitting paper or steel at 500 yards is not too difficult. It starts getting exponentially harder the father you go. Environmental conditions and lack of a stable shooting position make first shot hits for the average shooter (lots of hunters are sub average) hard as hell beyond about 300 yards. And then you have the problem with there being a lack of energy at extended ranges for some of these calibers.

I know there are hunters that are capable of 400 yard shots but I would venture to say for every deer taken at that distance ten or wounded.
 
@Spike A Got a similar story. Sold a friend a scope for his muzzleloader. Put him in a tree stand, takes a ridiculous shot at close range, doesn't hit it and swears the scope is no good. He went to a range and the rifle was dead on. I go back a few days later and hunt out of the same stand. Uh, yeah, ok. You tried to thread that needle? SMH.
 

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Spike A said:
i love reading some of the stories you guys have out there about creedmore ppl (even though i have one and do like it).... i have a similar story but about a buddy with a 270, claimed anything with in 500 was a dead deer ( out deer hunting) so i played along..... a few days later i was going to do a little shooting and invited him over with it... started out at 100... he was good 200 he was a little high... so i asked well what you say we make the jump to 5 now.... he agreed very quickly... mind you my target at 500 - 1000 is 4x4 sheet of ply wood that staple target too... so he shoots first... 5 shots and said they felt perfect i held over ( his scope is a cabelas 4-14 with hold over lines to 300..? i think ) ... we go on out to the target and he didnt even hit ply wood.... he was dumb founded.. thought something was hanky is scoped got bumped off .... something,... go back to 100... dead on.... so i told him, might just want to limit yourself to 200 with that there setup... he got pissed at me and hasnt talked to me sense, said some how i caused him to miss at 500 because hes always on... hasnt talked to me for over a week now...
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Let him mull it over for a few days ,he will be back
 
HillBilly98 said:
I think a lot of folks on here would agree with me that the Creedmoor is a nice round. The problem is more with the hype that is generated about it. I’m sure that if the internet was around when the 270 or 25-06 was first commercially produced there would have been similar chatter. Go back and read some of Elmor kieths exchanges with jack O’Conner.

Again the creed is a good cartridge but I don’t think that it has a ton of improvements over some others like the 260. Problem is that folks read the reviews online and in magazines and think they can go out and become a 1000 yard or mile long game mercenaries without knowing the first thing about long range shooting, accuracy or long range hunting. I’m going to tell you that hitting paper or steel at 500 yards is not too difficult. It starts getting exponentially harder the father you go. Environmental conditions and lack of a stable shooting position make first shot hits for the average shooter (lots of hunters are sub average) hard as hell beyond about 300 yards. And then you have the problem with there being a lack of energy at extended ranges for some of these calibers.

I know there are hunters that are capable of 400 yard shots but I would venture to say for every deer taken at that distance ten or wounded.
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I have seen this with guys that have done there homework and practiced shooting gongs at long range, BUT there is something about an animal that changes the playing field
 
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