SWN Equipment List

[mdbruce]

Will there be an equipment and component list for those used at the 2019 SWN?

Is that data collected at non-benchrest matches?

Thanks

 

[memilanuk]

Is that data collected at non-benchrest matches?

Generally speaking, no.

 

[Matthew Schwartzkopf]

Capstone is compiling the data now. It will be released once it is compiled

 

[mdbruce]

Generally speaking, no.

I wondered, because I never see lists posted with match results.

Capstone is compiling the data now. It will be released once it is compiled

Oh cool. Thank you

 

[memilanuk]

Capstone is compiling the data now. It will be released once it is compiled

When was that data collected, Matt? During registration in PractiScore?

 

[Endyo]

I never answered a questionare.

 

[Alex Wheeler]

Im not sure how much value an equipment list has with so much sponsoring happening now.

 

[mdbruce]

Im not sure how much value an equipment list has with so much sponsoring happening now.

The value to me is seeing unfamiliar names and cartridges.

 

[memilanuk]

Chambers
308
308
308
308
284
284 variant
Wsm stuff
Rsaum stuff
Br stuff

FTFY

 

[B Nettesheim]

FTFY

Oh man I forgot about ftr sorry!!! Ill edit

 

[memilanuk]

Oh man I forgot about ftr sorry!!! Ill edit

Nah, I think I had the caliber mix about right...

If you're going to modify the original list, better add Savage to the action list... not everyone runs custom.

 

[Bob3700]

I bet it will look something like this in no particular order (not everything is included here)

Barrels
Bartlein
Brux
Kreiger

Actions
Kelbly
Borden
Bat

Stocks
McMillan
Cerus
X ring

Triggers
Jewell
Bix

Chambers
284
284 variant
Wsm stuff
308
223
Rsaum stuff
Br stuff

Bullets
Berger
Sierra
Vapor trail

Scopes
Nightforce
Vortex
Kahles
Sightron

I assume that is a list for F- Class rifles. Others will look a bit different.

 

[dcali]

Equipment lists seem more useful to marketers than competitors if you ask me.

 

[mdbruce]

Equipment lists seem more useful to marketers than competitors if you ask me.

That's like saying competitors don't care what other competitors are doing. That's not a natural competitive trait.

People are curious by nature and just want to know...just like people want to know what lure(s) was used to win the Bassmaster classic, equipment on any PGA majors, shoes worn by a marathon champ, etc etc etc etc. Whether the information is used, or however it is used, people are curious by nature and just want to know.

I'm not going to get a Vapor Trail knuckle tat and BAT truck decal because they did well at the event. But I guarantee you that winning influences brand dominance.

 

[Matthew Schwartzkopf]

When was that data collected, Matt? During registration in PractiScore?

When you where approved you received an email saying you were in the match. In that email was a link to fill out the equipment list.

 

[Ned Ludd]

As a general rule, equipment lists from bigger matches will provide a nice overview of the spectrum of gear used in a given discipline, as well as the relative frequency amongst competitors that various manufacturers' products are used. What they generally do NOT tell you is the specific equipment that is used by each of the very top shooters, which is what it seems like people often want to see. Without knowing exactly how the people that used a specific piece of equipment actually fared in terms of score, it is difficult to assign any relative value to a specific piece of equipment made by one manufacturer versus that of another; it's more of a popularity contest. Frequency of use is not necessarily an indication of the relative quality of any product, nor is it an indicator of the relative skill of the person using it. I've occasionally seen equipment lists for disciplines other than F-Class that showed the specific gear used by each individual shooter, as well as how they ended up, which some might find more useful/interesting.

 

[memilanuk]

When you where approved you received an email saying you were in the match. In that email was a link to fill out the equipment list.

My point was more so that what people filled out back then may bear only a passing similarity to what they actually showed up with on match day.

I realize that at some point its better than nothing... but some people get way too hung up on the equipment lists not realizing they aren't actually filled out the day of the match.

 

[dcali]

That's like saying competitors don't care what other competitors are doing. That's not a natural competitive trait.

People are curious by nature and just want to know...just like people want to know what lure(s) was used to win the Bassmaster classic, equipment on any PGA majors, shoes worn by a marathon champ, etc etc etc etc. Whether the information is used, or however it is used, people are curious by nature and just want to know.

I'm not going to get a Vapor Trail knuckle tat and BAT truck decal because they did well at the event. But I guarantee you that winning influences brand dominance.

I’ll accept that it can be helpful for a new competitor getting oriented. It’s a great way to press the easy button and get a quality competitive rifle to start with.

Looking at what the top 5 guys used is worthless in my opinion. In realty, whoever won almost certainly would have won with a trued Remington and a weaver 36x. The specific gear used is so, so much less important than the type of gear used, and how it is used together, which equipment lists don’t really get into. The distinction between a Bat and a Borden is not something I’d advise a new shooter to think much about. At least not in terms of being competitive.

 

[Matthew Schwartzkopf]

As a general rule, equipment lists from bigger matches will provide a nice overview of the spectrum of gear used in a given discipline, as well as the relative frequency amongst competitors that various manufacturers' products are used. What they generally do NOT tell you is the specific equipment that is used by each of the very top shooters, which is what it seems like people often want to see. Without knowing exactly how the people that used a specific piece of equipment actually fared in terms of score, it is difficult to assign any relative value to a specific piece of equipment made by one manufacturer versus that of another; it's more of a popularity contest. Frequency of use is not necessarily an indication of the relative quality of any product, nor is it an indicator of the relative skill of the person using it. I've occasionally seen equipment lists for disciplines other than F-Class that showed the specific gear used by each individual shooter, as well as how they ended up, which some might find more useful/interesting.

Just follow their facebook page they will give you a novel of what they did and what they used after every match.

 

[memilanuk]

Personally I'd almost rather have match results that included two extra columns - 'T' and 'R' (Target # & Relay) for each of the individual sub matches.