So after sorting 500 223 bullets yesterday with a caliper and comparitor im looking for a better tool option.
Please, no OAL bullet sorting tools.
Thanks.
Please, no OAL bullet sorting tools.
Thanks.
Suggestion on a BTO bullet sorting tool?
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lgwatson
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Sinclair makes a good one. Pretty easy to use.
Does it do BTO or OAL? Looks like OAL from the photo.
shoot4fun
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The description clearly states "accurately sort bullets by base to ogive length".
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drop_point
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Sinclairs are good and they are in stock.
Thanks when I brought up this ( https://www.brownells.com/reloading...air-bullet-sorting-stand-with-dial-indicator/ ) I read as follows..The description clearly states "accurately sort bullets by base to ogive length".
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"The Sinclair Bullet Checker Stand allows you to quickly and accurately sort bullets by base to give length."
That reads as some bad AI speak to me.
Go to your gunsmith and have him take a piece of 223 barrel. square up both ends and use it with a good set of calipers
The Accuracy One Seating Depth Comparator works very nicely for sorting bullets, it's actually fast and easy (no AOL sorting
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lgwatson
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Base to ogive. You use a comparator with it.
MikeRu
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The Accuracy One meplat trimmer body also doubles as a handy caliper mount, great for sorting. You can insert the bullet tip into the cutter body and use the caliper arm to measure from the bullet base. It’s very fast to check several dozen, just sliding the calipers open and closed.
Usually with a good lot of bullets you can skip sorting on BTO, but I always check it. It’s not actually BTO but a reasonable surrogate. The bullet nose stops in the cutter before you hit the ogive so it’s “base to some spot farther out on the bullet nose”.
If you attach an ogive adapter to the caliper arm you can measure a surrogate of bearing surface, on 180 hybrids the range was +\- 0.001 or so, so I didn’t sort on that small difference.
The pic was handy on my phone but it’s wrong. Always insert the bullet TIP into the cutter body (tip should be pointed to the right in the pic). Don’t insert the bullet base into the cutter body, as there’s no flat inside there for the base to sit on, and it creates apparent differences from bullet to bullet that aren’t real (fail to confirm when measure BTO the conventional way).
Usually with a good lot of bullets you can skip sorting on BTO, but I always check it. It’s not actually BTO but a reasonable surrogate. The bullet nose stops in the cutter before you hit the ogive so it’s “base to some spot farther out on the bullet nose”.
If you attach an ogive adapter to the caliper arm you can measure a surrogate of bearing surface, on 180 hybrids the range was +\- 0.001 or so, so I didn’t sort on that small difference.
The pic was handy on my phone but it’s wrong. Always insert the bullet TIP into the cutter body (tip should be pointed to the right in the pic). Don’t insert the bullet base into the cutter body, as there’s no flat inside there for the base to sit on, and it creates apparent differences from bullet to bullet that aren’t real (fail to confirm when measure BTO the conventional way).
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Had one for years and it is lots faster than using a calliper set up.
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R.Morehouse
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rwj
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The setup as shown in the pic could be used to measure bullet bearing length…
MikeRu
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rwj
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Interesting. When I insert the base of a 6mm boat tail bullet into the Hoover trimmer body, contact occurs on the boat tail taper nearly at the bullet’s body diameter. The bullet base almost extends into the cross drilled hole in the trimmer body.
MikeRu
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That sounds correct, there’s no flat there to catch the base just an angled corner. And I guess there’s some variation (bullet to bullet) in the diameter of the base that isn’t reporting variation in the position of the base relative to the ogive, so you conclude variation in BTO (up to 7 for my 6mm bullets) when the variation is really more like 2 ( maybe insignificant).
Hey guys, thought I would chime back in here. First off thanks for all the suggestions on different tools.
I'll show yall what I ended up with. This is just something I cobbled together. Sorting bullets is something new for me. Seeing I have no idea if it's going to effect the disciplines I shoot I was hesitant to spenda bunch of cash.
So.. I picked up a cheap base off Amazon. Ditto on the cheap digital gauge. I'll use my bullet comparitors as well.
So thanks again guys.
I'll show yall what I ended up with. This is just something I cobbled together. Sorting bullets is something new for me. Seeing I have no idea if it's going to effect the disciplines I shoot I was hesitant to spenda bunch of cash.
So.. I picked up a cheap base off Amazon. Ditto on the cheap digital gauge. I'll use my bullet comparitors as well.
So thanks again guys.
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Do you pull up on the top stem to give enough room to put another bullet in?
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