Sub $1k actions

[ptboat]

I have a zematt tl3 and a origin.i also have a defiance tenacity.for me I like the Zermatt. Northland shooters supply.is great to deal with.one stop shop.you can buy everything right there.i like my defiance but the Zermatts for me feel much smoother on the bolt opening and closing.if I had to make a choose between the zermatts.i like the origin better then the tl3.also defiance prices went way up on there prices.

 

[nmkid]

I wonder how much cash flow Defiance has lost since the Tenacity debacle.

Zack built my last one with a Tenacity. Really like it, very smooth. Getting ready to have him do another one and I thought I would go with another Tenacity...Nope, not at the new price. Zack will be getting me a Kauger instead.

 

[LuvDog]

I wonder how much cash flow Defiance has lost since the Tenacity debacle.

What was the tenacity debacle?

 

[Kracken McGraw]

What was the tenacity debacle?

When Defiance was bought out last year by the TV personalities, they claimed the Tenacity was underpriced and nearly doubled the retail price.

 

[nakneker]

When Defiance was bought out last year by the TV personalities, they claimed the Tenacity was underpriced and nearly doubled the retail price.

Yeah, that’s gonna go over like a lead ballon. Too much competition, we’re spoiled.

 

[Txhillbilly]

On the ARC site.... It looks like they are not accepting any backorders for the Nucleus 2.0. Is there somewhere else that sells them? Or perhaps they are only going to dealers?

That I do not know. You can always call them and find out.

 

[55fairlane]

I can afford ammunition maybe because I don't spend money on Snap On.

Snap On is such an expensive tool alternative that I wonder how you can make such a comparison? A Savage is the Home Depot 'Husky' brand equivalent. Snap On would be the (overpriced) Defiance equivalent.

In case your interested, I built race engines for years (along with fixing a few cars) and at the end of 8 ot 9 hours your hands do not hurt when you use a properly fitted wrench, like a Snap On....you get what you pay for.....

 

[ronsatspokane]

I'm sorry some of these new actions, have all the same features and are dare I say it, nearly as smooth as some of these other actions that cost $500 to $800 more.

What he said. I've got BAT, Borden, Haverkamp, Anschutz, CZ, Remington. The BAT is the slickest of all but the Solus is not far off.

 

[std7mag]

"Shells"? That misnomer belongs on the shotgun forum. They're cartridges.

"Punching paper" is how one determines if the rifle/scope is properly sighted-in and accurate enough to reliably and humanely hunt with. The deer hunter, for example, who thinks being able to hit a 10" paper plate at 100y is good enough, is IMO a disgrace. My hunting rifle is 1/2 MOA with my preferred loads, and I know this because I punch paper with it several times a year, from 100y - 500y. I can afford ammunition maybe because I don't spend money on Snap On.

Snap On is such an expensive tool alternative that I wonder how you can make such a comparison? A Savage is the Home Depot 'Husky' brand equivalent. Snap On would be the (overpriced) Defiance equivalent.

OP, the action is, amortized over the life of a rifle, the inexpensive major component. Jim Borden will charge you about $900 to provide and fit a premium barrel (e.g. Bartlein or Krieger) to your action. An MDT chassis, Foundation stock, or similar will easily exceed $1k. Lots of us try various options before settling (if ever) on one. Scopes can easily cost 2-4x the action price. And then ammo, at say $1.75+/cartridge, whether or not you reload, will far surpass the cost of your action long before you shoot out your first barrel.

So which one to buy? I vote for the Zermatt Origin. Buy it from James and Heather at Northland Shooter Supply. Get it in the brushed stainless finish, which is exclusive to them. They can fix you up with a barrel, extra bolt heads, tools, etc. too.

Turning wrenches for a living for many years, you quickly learn to make the investment in good tools.
These are what your making your living with.
I still have and use the first set of Mac Tools wrenches that I bought in 1984.
Have gone through more than a couple sets of Snap On screwdriver sets over the years.
Not because they broke, but because they were stolen. Usually one at a time.
Until I bought the pink handled set. (Are you gonna steal a pink handled screwdriver?)

Impact sockets are one item that by using day in & day out, you see the obvious quality difference.
Especially when the side wall on a lesser expensive one blows out!

The Husky, Kobalt and others are made specifically for the homeowner, or shadetree mechanic.

So for the person looking for a quality action for hunting or the occasional local match, while on a budget, no, you don't need the Snap On of actions.