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So....Why DID you buy a Savage?

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This thread is bananas, b-a-n-a-n-a-s!

Nothing gets the ol' blood going like a good Savage thread. Love it.
 
SO it was the bolt rattling that drove Eric crazy... thanks for explaining what I been thinking. Maybe you can seek help under P in the phone book. ;) cliffe
 
cliffe said:
SO it was the bolt rattling that drove Eric crazy... thanks for explaining what I been thinking. Maybe you can seek help under P in the phone book. ;) cliffe

I'm good now, I go to group therapy with my custom action's and blueprinted Jewell triggers! ;)
 
I actually have bought 2 new Savages in my time, a 340 in a Hornet, and a 99 E in .243. I sold them because they were just plain crude....the 340 with the side mounted scope, the 99E circa 1988 which was rather on the rough side as compared to an uncle's pre-war model. Dad bought me my first deer gun, a 700 in '66....and bought dozens of CF bolts since & not a single Savage..... I just never liked the looks or feel of Savage bolt actions.....so It's not you, it's me :-[
 
People that dont like savage's are the same people at a party and say"hold it down ,it's to loud in here" we used to call people kill joy's. Why hate when you could just say you dont prefer them instead of intentionally trying to make folk's peed off. Even customs have quirks such as panda's,you lift the bolt handle from the down position in battery to stop the shroud from dragging. Oop's I blew a primer,time to send the jewel back to the factory for repair.I need a part for my panda,oops they dont answer the phone and ,or,get back to you when you leave a message.I called kelblys looking for a new firing pin assy and after 11 phone calls gave up and had someone they know call them to get the part.Everything that is better isnt perfect and it doesnt mean you will get any better service unless you know someone.At least if I need something for one of my fun savage's I just call several different folks who make parts and get real service.Savage's have the trigger quirk for sure but I would rather deal with that then get snubbed.I have remmys,savage's,winchester's and a varied cross section of what has or is being produced. I have fun with all of them.If I had enough disposable income I would buy a bat or a borden,stiller etc But I dont unless I sell all of them..I love firearms and dont always agree with all the idea's put forth in design,however you just work around the best that you can.I say one thing that savage got right,promoting the shooting sports and if we become divided by brand we will be divided and it is just like the compound bows versus traditional equipment argument that has gone on for age's. It is stupid to argue over this anymore.Just respect one mans favorite to each others instead of having a war over it.Let us stay as one so we can ride out the storm of stuff happening before our very eye's. It is no different than seeing one mans fun isnt your's and then the fight begins because you want everyone to think like you do.Stand together and respect each other and try to help anyone rather than giving attitude to frustrate new shooters who are truly excited about their new rifle.Even if it isnt your cup of tea.
 
I don't have a reason I have 28 of them starting with 222 and ending 300 ultra. All could of Ben made without a gun smith. The reason I still shot a savage is so I can hear all the excuses.
Number one is it was too calm. I never see a target that was a winner have place for how good the gun( Looked) Larry
 
My first Savage was a model 12 blued heavy barrel 1:9 twist with the black plastic stock. I was just learning to reload. I put a $75.00 BSA scope on it. This gun shot 30-80 grain bullets at .5 MOA. Shortly after that we started shooting the Varmint Hunters Association Jamborees. At first "Stock" class was dominated by Remingtons. Then the Savage LRPV rifles came out followed by the Benchrest model. In a year or two 80% of the guns in Stock class were Savages. The out of the box accuracy for Savages makes them hard to beat. In IBS matches where there is a Factory Class they continue to win. There is nothing like beating a Remington Custom Shop gun with a stock Savage BR model.

Currently I own several Savage rifles. They are a great platform to build a semi-custom gun on. With bolt on stocks, triggers, and barrels you can easily build anything you want at home.

Best Wishes!
 
savagedasher said:
I don't have a reason I have 28 of them starting with 222 and ending 300 ultra. All could of Ben made without a gun smith. The reason I still shot a savage is so I can hear all the excuses.
Number one is it was too calm. I never see a target that was a winner have place for how good the gun( Looked) Larry

Very succinct explanation SD, now I know why you are so passionate about them. I agree that beauty is in the eye of the beeholding.
 
dmoran said:
M-61 said:
Yes that's my reason. However, I'll add I have never owned, nor fired, a more accurate factory rifle than my Savage LRPV in 6BR. I am referring to a 5 shot group at 100 yards.

I respect your input/reasoning and we all have our own opinions, and that is all that matters in the end.
With that said, I want to ask you, did you own/shoot any other 6BR's before your LRPV?
If not, I will suggest that it is has more to do with the 6BR then the rifle....
And I have the opinion that the 6BR is one of the most accurate cartridges ever made, that can make about any rifle look good.

Donovan
To answer your question....yes......however my statement was/is " a more accurate factory rifle...."and that still stands. I do agree that a 6BR is an accurate cartridge. I was just amazed at what this off the shelf rifle can do. I am strictly a 100 yard shooter and there may well be other factory rifles that are better....I just have not run into them. (yet). For me the DIY was the major reason, to answer the OP's question. Although that first one, the LRPV, I have never done anything to it. It did get me to buy other Savage actions which allow me to swap barrels etc., and get hooked on 30BR's. (not a bad thing).
 
It would appear that Erik Cortina's well known dislike of Savages is based on ONE Savage that he owned. Hmmm...... I wonder if it could have been a lemon.
 
I bought a Savage model 12 BVSS in .308 to shoot while waiting on a Stiller Predator in 6 BR to be smithed and delivered. The factory Savage barrel was very rough looking internally so I sent the rifle to Savage for service. Savage said the barrel shot within spec and returned the rifle. I, then, replaced the barrel with a McGowen pre-fit from Jim Briggs. I didn't like the sloppy bolt fit and the trigger on the Savage so I parted it out and bought a Remington 700. I replaced the stock, the trigger and the barrel on the Remington 700. The barrel is a pre-fit with a barrel nut from Jim Briggs. I have all the advantages of a Savage with the aftermarket availability of quality stocks, triggers, etc. in my Remington 700. I doubt I will ever buy another Savage.

Cort
 
I don't own a savage, I don't because I was too well invested in Remington's before the savage crazz went viral. I believe that Savage has some very good features I really like the floating bolt head , and the ability to diy with barrels and bolt faces. They have some bad features also, the firing pin must have 10 parts, the trigger and the way the sear mates to the bolt are horrible. Its been said that Arnold Jewell tried for 2 years to make a good trigger for a Savage and gave up cause of the side catch on the bolt. That being said Remington hasn't got the firing pin right yet either, but its one piece and Greg Tannel can fix it for a few bucks. It takes money and time or smarts and machinery to get a barrel on a Remington. If I had it to do over I don't know which I would choose. But today is a new day with new choices. If I had to choose today with what I know I would start with a Remington 783 or a Ruger American. I know they have blatantly stole many of Savages good merits such as barrel nuts and floating bolt heads. But they have also fixed some of Savages problems also. I am siding with the Remington 783 cause I don't know if a good trigger is available for a Ruger American and a Jewell will fit a 783 if my info is good. The 783 has a much stiffer receiver, It isn't cut away like the 700 and only has a loading port not the whole top cut out, and the back ring is the same diameter as the front. I will not belittle the Savage cause they pioneered much of this technology. I do believe that the Ruger , the 783 and maybe others are a better choice now or at least some time in the near future when aftermarket parts are more plentiful. But I have a few old Remington 700s that shoot pretty darn good and nothing out there factory gun wise is light years better at this point.
 
Nomad47 said:
It would appear that Erik Cortina's well known dislike of Savages is based on ONE Savage that he owned. Hmmm...... I wonder if it could have been a lemon.

I started thinking the same thing. A friend of mine started coming out to my place every Sunday to get ready for the Berger SW Nationals.

His rifle:
Savage PTA action with all the "fixes" done to it.
Bartlein barrel - no nut.
PR&T stock
March scope
Sav-2 trigger

After watching him shoot it a few times, I asked if I could shoot it. I was surprised when I shot it because the trigger was actually pretty light. So I loaded another round in the chamber, and when I started closing the bolt it went off!

So, 2 for 2 Bill.
 
Erik Cortina said:
Nomad47 said:
It would appear that Erik Cortina's well known dislike of Savages is based on ONE Savage that he owned. Hmmm...... I wonder if it could have been a lemon.

I started thinking the same thing. A friend of mine started coming out to my place every Sunday to get ready for the Berger SW Nationals.

His rifle:
Savage PTA action with all the "fixes" done to it.
Bartlein barrel - no nut.
PR&T stock
March scope
Sav-2 trigger

After watching him shoot it a few times, I asked if I could shoot it. I was surprised when I shot it because the trigger was actually pretty light. So I loaded another round in the chamber, and when I started closing the bolt it went off!

So, 2 for 2 Bill.

I'm not falling for this!! U hit the trigger on purpose to create mental havoc in his head so he didn't BEAT your custom. 8) 8)
 

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