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ShotMarker Rapid Fire sensors

I am pleased to announce the new ShotMarker Rapid Fire sensors which drastically reduce the chance of missed shots caused by interference from off-target shots.

Whenever a shot is fired, its shockwave will sweep across every target on the range. While off-target shots are commonly detected and handled in software, the shockwave has the potential to interfere with another shot which is arriving at the exact same time. The probability of interference is low, but poses a significant problem for Across the Course rapid fire stages.

The objective of these new sensors is to attack the problem at its source. These are MEMS microphones with the same precision, accuracy, and simplicity as the original sensors, except with a more focused sensitivity range, extremely low settling time, and ability to ignore loud noises such as muzzle blast or bullet impact vibrations. We now have essentially the ideal sensor for an acoustic e-target, reducing the chance of a missed shot by over 10x and reaching the physical limits of what is possible with open sensing.

There is no change in accuracy, compatibility, or price. They are simply a revision of the internal sensing element, compatible with all existing Sensor Hubs, available now, and standard with all ShotMarker orders.

For an individual or small club with less than 5 targets, there is no reason to switch to the new sensors. Accuracy is the same and they will function the same way. If you represent a larger club who has been experiencing the effects of shot interference, then contact me (adamjmac@gmail.com) to discuss the option of swapping the sensor element in your sensors.

The original ShotMarker sensors were designed to push the limits in precision and reliability. When a shot appears, we need confidence that it was measured accurately first and foremost. Now, as more clubs are switching to e-targets in greater numbers, the focus is on supporting larger scale events. These sensors represent a major milestone for acoustic e-targets and my ongoing commitment to continually innovate and improve the sport.
 
I have a question... say someone, like myself shoots one sensor and needs to order another... are there 2 types of sensors to choose from or would I simply receive one of the new ones and they will work just fine with the others?
 
I have a question... say someone, like myself shoots one sensor and needs to order another... are there 2 types of sensors to choose from or would I simply receive one of the new ones and they will work just fine with the others?

They work fine with the others and it would be the new ones. The housing is slightly different but otherwise you wouldn't be able to tell the difference.
 
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Awesome News and GREAT Work Adam !

So glad I got my order in early for four more firing points worth to bring my 600 yard range that runs many XTC matches with Rapid Fire Stages each season up to 10 Shotmarker systems when we start back up in April.

The system was already 100% perfect for individual practice, coaching and all the Prone matches we run.

At this price point with the great performance and all the great features your system provided even before this HUGE improvement you will easily be the top selling E target system of the options currently available. ( if you weren't already :) )

Well done and Huge Thanks from the shooting community and Match Directors everywhere !

George
 
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Gen 1.1, this is significant evolutionary change.

I am watching this closely, certain I am not alone. I am a buyer of the Gen 2.0 product. I would love to prevail on my club to buy 10-12 of these and start running 600 yard F class and Midrange Prone.

Make it happen.
 
Gen 1.1, this is significant evolutionary change.

I am watching this closely, certain I am not alone.

I am a buyer of the Gen 2.0 product
.

I would love to prevail on my club to buy 10-12 of these and start running 600 yard F class and Midrange Prone.

Make it happen.

Sorry but,
I'm confused as to what you are referring to as Gen 1.1 and Gen 2.0 products and I didn't want to make assumptions as to what you are saying. Please clarify.

I don't see anything listed as gen 1.0, 1.1 or 2.0 on the product webpage @ https://www.autotrickler.com/shotmarker.html

What generation are you calling the release that Adam describes in the opening post of this thread?

Are you waiting to buy for what you consider to be the Gen 2.0 product or have you purchased something already?


I am the range governor of my clubs 600 yard range. I got my club to buy two of the Shotmarker systems the 1st month they were available for sale early in 2018. I then got them to let me buy 4 more mid summer.

The Original hardware before this option worked / works perfectly for individual practice and Prone matches.

The problem was missing shots in some strings of rapid fire stages in XTC matches.
That is now solved with Adam's upgrade he describes in this thread.
 
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Perhaps more directly, I wonder what SWR thinks is missing from the current version, what his 'wish list' is for the next version.
 
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I think I know what SWRichmond is talking about. New products that are actively developed tend to improve rapidly at the beginning of the development cycle because as the user base grows more and more issues/bugs are exposed. Hardware and software is incrementally updated to address those those issues that smaller testing groups did not reveal. Some people are early adopters and don't mind the frequent churn of software releases and incremental hardware updates... but some are more conservative and will wait until they perceive that most of the kinks have been worked out.

In my opinion, Adam has done wonders in bringing affordable E-Targets to the masses as it were... but that includes some growning pains. One of those pains is trying to convince folks that it's time to get off the couch because the product is now stable and ready for primetime.
 
But to wait for 2.0 one must have a view as to what's missing in 1.1 or what the development path might be. I think Adam made an awesome product in 1.0, one that would (more than) meet the needs of any individual shooter. The interest from clubs might have even been a little surprise. And so now multi shooter, rapid fire has been addressed. Job done. Subsonic? I would expect that might require a different technology. I'm in. I just spent some time working on my target frame...
 
Oh I get it... had I had the money when it was first released, I would have had it day one. As it stands, I received mine right around Thanksgiving time and as a personal E-Target it's awesome... though I do wish I would have received the new sensors vs the old ones as I also intend to pair it up with a few other members of club and their shotmarkers to run a few matches this coming season.

As an IT professional, I am pretty familiar with the way development works and and how users react to it and SWRichmond's desire to wait for a more "mature" product is not rare. Too many people have been bitten by jumping in early whether it be updating their iphone or running windows update right after a major release is announced, then getting burned by either a rapidly following improvement or massive bug.
 
Subsonic? I would expect that might require a different technology.
Yeah, that's probably a pretty big hurdle, but it sure would expand the market for ShotMarkers considerably.
I'm in. I just spent some time working on my target frame...
Same here...
 
At the Sporting Rifle Club at Bisley (UK) we shot '50m Running Boar' with subsonic 22LR and electronic targets. I'm not sure what the technology was though. I think it required a 'self healing' membrane with sensors at each corner. It was an awesome discipline.
 
Our club just received five ShotMarkers today. The club just completed a two day Midrange match on personally owned ShotMarker targets, and the feedback was overwhelmingly positive. Twenty shooters each day and our first NRA approved match on e-targets. ShotMarkers will allow us to implement a Long Range program as we don't have pits where our targets need to be placed.
I've run my ShotMarker in Across the Course matches along with manually pulled targets, and it's worked great. I've never had a dropped shot. Ran it this weekend with two other targets and used the new 1.08 Access Point software. Many great improvements, especially for a match.
Many thanks to Adam for bringing us an affordable and great product. The barrel makers should be subsidizing these as I know I'm sending more rounds downrange since getting my ShotMarker.
Mark
 
But to wait for 2.0 one must have a view as to what's missing in 1.1 or what the development path might be.

Not necessarily. Having watched the tech product dev cycle many many times I know what it looks like, even if you don't.

I think I know what SWRichmond is talking about. New products that are actively developed tend to improve rapidly at the beginning of the development cycle because as the user base grows more and more issues/bugs are exposed. Hardware and software is incrementally updated to address those those issues that smaller testing groups did not reveal. Some people are early adopters and don't mind the frequent churn of software releases and incremental hardware updates... but some are more conservative and will wait until they perceive that most of the kinks have been worked out.

In my opinion, Adam has done wonders in bringing affordable E-Targets to the masses as it were... but that includes some growning pains. One of those pains is trying to convince folks that it's time to get off the couch because the product is now stable and ready for primetime.

This poster gets it. I've done the "bleeding edge" thing, even when it didn't look like it at the beginning, and I don't care to repeat it. I don't think this new product is bleeding edge. But I AM conservative and am willing to wait for what I see coming, either from this vendor or another. It's coming. Having said that, this vendor's product is very promising.

Edit #2: this vendor's apparent interest in rapidly deploying improvements is a positive, it shows interest in making the product succeed, and acknowledgement of the dev cycle.
 
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Not necessarily. Having watched the tech product dev cycle many many times I know what it looks like, even if you don't.



This poster gets it. I've done the "bleeding edge" thing, even when it didn't look like it at the beginning, and I don't care to repeat it. I don't think this new product is bleeding edge. But I AM conservative and am willing to wait for what I see coming, either from this vendor or another. It's coming. Having said that, this vendor's product is very promising.

Edit #2: this vendor's apparent interest in rapidly deploying improvements is a positive, it shows interest in making the product succeed, and acknowledgement of the dev cycle.

Thank You for the clarification.
Where you stated in your last post in this thread that you were a buyer of Gen 2, I was confused if you had already purchased or not.

What further improvements above that Adam has stated here and previous buyers feedback are you waiting for before purchasing for at $799 per firing point ?

Thanks again,
George
 
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