• This Forum is for adults 18 years of age or over. By continuing to use this Forum you are confirming that you are 18 or older. No content shall be viewed by any person under 18 in California.

SHOT Show and F Class?

Shows how clueless people in the shooting industry are.
If it's not related to an AR or PRS

People in the shooting sports industry are not clueless. Ive spent the better part of the last 20 years working in the industry and have been fortunate to call it my life’s work. I know some of the folks in that video personally and they are very smart business people, many of whose make and sell products that simply not utilized in F-Class or maybe any other competitive shooting ventures. The fact of the matter is that F-Class is relatively small in comparison to the population that drives the shooting industry. PRS is also relatively small and is not the sole driving force in business decisions, product lines, sales training, etc. So to make a blanket statement that people in our industry are clueless is simply inaccurate.

If you look at the sample of vendors he spoke to, you’ll see that most are simply not in the precision, long range, market. And that’s great, because the industry needs consumers of all interests. Long gone are the days where Bullseye, smallbore, High-power, short range Benchreat, and Silhouette are the driving force in American consumer behavior. Sure, advancements in equipment or technology comes from competitive shooting, to include F-Class and PRS. But you simply cannot expect every vendor to be an expert in all things shooting sports. You won’t find it in any industry, period.

What the folks in our industry ARE is willing to talk to shooters, just as they did with John at SHOT. They are willing to learn and see where there may be avenues to grow their business IF it makes sense. So good on John for trying to spread the message and engage with the industry. If you look, PRS has done an outstanding job of engaging with the industry, which is why you see a lot of that right now. Cowboy action was that way, so was USPSA, so was 3-Gun. Youth trap and clays has done a great job with it in recent years as they’ve grown. All in all, F-Class has done an OK job and folks like John are doing good things for the sport.

John, I’m sorry if my response takes anything away from what you are doing. Keep up the great work and spread the word about any and all shooting sports.

Sincerely,

John Teachey
 
If you look at the sample of vendors he spoke to, you’ll see that most are simply not in the precision, long range, market. And that’s great, because the industry needs consumers of all interests. Long gone are the days where Bullseye, smallbore, High-power, short range Benchreat, and Silhouette are the driving force in American consumer behavior. Sure, advancements in equipment or technology comes from competitive shooting, to include F-Class and PRS. But you simply cannot expect every vendor to be an expert in all things shooting sports. You won’t find it in any industry, period.
[...]
John, I’m sorry if my response takes anything away from what you are doing. Keep up the great work and spread the word about any and all shooting sports.
I appreciate what you said and I totally agree, it's definitely not the barometer to measure F Class by, but instead it's just an interesting look from the perspective of those who were asked (and I definitely was happy to talk to those who wanted to learn about it). For those wondering, it wasn't intended to be click bait or anything like that, it's just the way it went that day and thought it would be interesting to share. I got a wild hair that particular morning and thought it would be interesting as I was waiting for Erik and had some time to kill. What you see in the video are the first people I ran into that were willing to be on camera in the first couple rows I planned on walking. But we're talking a few dozen questioned out of hundreds and hundreds of booths covering five convention center rooms. In retrospect I should've asked about other disciplines like PRS, 3 gun, speed gun, etc. but you know what they say about hindsight.
 
If F Class shooting {I'm one} and PRS are such a minor bit of the shooting world overall,
WHERE are all the target/long range bullets?? Hello Berger, are you listening?
Is the production of these UN-Obtainum projectiles, think .223, 6mm, 6.5, 7mm & .30 just limited or is the production just being bought up in vast quantities by a handful?
Leaving the rest of us that just need 500 for the year to be able to compete in local competition out in the cold. Not to mention primers and powder.... I heard someone recently bragging that they had 50K primers, and 150 lbs of powder stashed away!
I am fortunate to be able to shoot every Saturday in F Open {an hour and 20 minute drive} on a range that runs 300mtrs to 1'000yds but the lack of ranges that offer those sort of distances is a real problem to growing F Class.
Particularly in the USA, at least in Az. where I have only a 200 yd range with in a reasonable distance of where I locate when back for a visit to Tucson. To get to a 1'000 yd range it is 30 miles West of Tucson, nearly a 2 hr drive for me and they do not shoot every week, only a few sessions per month.
Ben Avery in Phoenix is an example of what I would love to see copied in more places.
Sierra Vista range {which for me would be closer if it had distance greater than the closest one at the Pima County show grounds} East of the city was talking about expanding but still only offer 200yd paper and out to 400yds for steel... Often closed due to volunteer staffing shortages...
 

Upgrades & Donations

This Forum's expenses are primarily paid by member contributions. You can upgrade your Forum membership in seconds. Gold and Silver members get unlimited FREE classifieds for one year. Gold members can upload custom avatars.


Click Upgrade Membership Button ABOVE to get Gold or Silver Status.

You can also donate any amount, large or small, with the button below. Include your Forum Name in the PayPal Notes field.


To DONATE by CHECK, or make a recurring donation, CLICK HERE to learn how.

Forum statistics

Threads
169,907
Messages
2,283,969
Members
82,407
Latest member
tyler1524
Back
Top