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Shipping insurance?

After 20+ Posts it should be evident the key word here is "LOST." Not "damaged." Why would a shipping outfit (USPS, FexEx, UPs, etc.) cover damage, when they did not pack an item? Just saying . . .

SJ
Because the seller can only assume normal care and handling. When a package falls off a belt 25 ft up, or gets crushed in a machine that is not normal and not something we as customers should be prepared for nor be paying for
 
After 20+ Posts it should be evident the key word here is "LOST." Not "damaged." Why would a shipping outfit (USPS, FexEx, UPs, etc.) cover damage, when they did not pack an item? Just saying . . .

SJ
Just saying maybe they should not accept a package that’s not packed to their standards whatever they may be.
eg: heavy duty cardboard box, originally used to pack liquor. Quite a substantial box. The words of the liquor manufacturer were crossed off. No good! Would not accept what was a former liquor box. That’s USPS
 
Just saying maybe they should not accept a package that’s not packed to their standards whatever they may be.
eg: heavy duty cardboard box, originally used to pack liquor. Quite a substantial box. The words of the liquor manufacturer were crossed off. No good! Would not accept what was a former liquor box. That’s USPS
They do have standards and if not followed they usually don't pay out. Up to the shipper to know, it I'd pretty easily found. Last time I checked, UPS needed to have 2" of packing (could be foam) totally around the item
 
I stopped insuring packages through USPS after 2 claims were denied for damage to contents. Both were packed real good "so I thought" claims were denied to improper packaging, even with the assistance of my post master in filing and disputing claims.
All this led me to the conclusion that the insurance was a "scam" to get more $$
to ship the same package to the same location.
If the customer wants additional insurance, that's on them, along with any claims that need to be filed.

I hear comments all the time about my packaging, and the time it takes to unwrap the contents.....
That's my insurance to the customer.
Dude your packaging puts you at the top of the OCD heap.
 
In Canada the majority of the stolen or "lost" packages are the ones that are insured because the crooks at the PO feel that the insured contents are valuable. Vancouver, BC has a massive PO sorting station at the airport and has the worse theft rate. Also, anything suspected of being firearms have a huge missing or damage rate.
 
What if the carrier loses it or runs over it with a forklift?
That rarely happens, not never. It doesnt take many shipments to save enough by not buying insurance to eat the loss if/when it does happen. I have shipped hundreds of packages over the last 6 years without a problem. Most by FedEx. Insurance cost would have been in the thousands of dollars.
 
The other fun thing is sticking the fork in box.

Shipping rests, I always ask people to send them “Signature Required”. It prevents them from just dropping off a damaged box. It also prevents the shipping company from playing some of their games. Trying to collect is another issue.
 
The other fun thing is sticking the fork in box.

Shipping rests, I always ask people to send them “Signature Required”. It prevents them from just dropping off a damaged box. It also prevents the shipping company from playing some of their games. Trying to collect is another issue.
I respect that on signature required....
I hate being tied to the delivery man's schedule, but I get what your putting down.
That rarely happens, not never. It doesnt take many shipments to save enough by not buying insurance to eat the loss if/when it does happen. I have shipped hundreds of packages over the last 6 years without a problem. Most by FedEx. Insurance cost would have been in the thousands of dollars.
Yes sir!!
I may not be paying the extra for insurance up front, but the tax man gets it in the end.
Shipping costs to the customer still rolls through the account.
 
I always insure my packages with USPS, solely to have in case they lose it. I use to trade in high end chef knives from all over the world, mostly Japanese. I sent one to Texas one time, a very expensive knife. It didn’t show up. The buyer started working things on his end, me on my end. We raised enough hell that the knife was found at the last facility shown on the tracking. One employee said he found fallen behind his desk. That was a lie, the knife had been opened and used but it was recovered and restored to pristine condition. This was a three day process. My local Post Master is fantastic, she knew how to push buttons. She said I would have received a refund but we will never know.

I do know I’ve had two packages that were insured show up damaged, no funds were recovered and in both cases it was plain to see the packages had been abused.

Sometimes I wonder if you insure a package if your highlighting it for theives, nothing worse than a thief or a liar.
 
I always insure my packages with USPS, solely to have in case they lose it. I use to trade in high end chef knives from all over the world, mostly Japanese. I sent one to Texas one time, a very expensive knife. It didn’t show up. The buyer started working things on his end, me on my end. We raised enough hell that the knife was found at the last facility shown on the tracking. One employee said he found fallen behind his desk. That was a lie, the knife had been opened and used but it was recovered and restored to pristine condition. This was a three day process. My local Post Master is fantastic, she knew how to push buttons. She said I would have received a refund but we will never know.

I do know I’ve had two packages that were insured show up damaged, no funds were recovered and in both cases it was plain to see the packages had been abused.

Sometimes I wonder if you insure a package if your highlighting it for theives, nothing worse than a thief or a liar.
To quote a postal worker. Whom I see regularly....
"When I worked the sort facility, the 1st thing I learned was...
These packages have no feelings!!"
WTF??
Anyway, life's a gamble I guess...
Should I raise prices to offset what may happen??
Or should I have a lil faith that Folks moving our mail/goods have just a bit of pride in thier job?
Fuk I don't know, gimme another beer
 
To quote a postal worker. Whom I see regularly....
"When I worked the sort facility, the 1st thing I learned was...
These packages have no feelings!!"
WTF??
Anyway, life's a gamble I guess...
Should I raise prices to offset what may happen??
Or should I have a lil faith that Folks moving our mail/goods have just a bit of pride in thier job?
Fuk I don't know, gimme another beer
Exactly!
 

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