Shaw barrels?
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Ccrider
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Here is a link to there barrel warranty(?) that may be helpful: https://www.shawcustombarrels.com/barrels/warranty-information-/190
Thanks. Live and learn I suppose.
Now I need to decide if I want to try some Tubbs bullets, rebarrel or cut my losses and find a LH Tikka in 260.
Thanks guys.
Lucky Shooter
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I would expect Shaw to do better than this barrel.
On using the Tubbs approach, you shouldn't be expected
to spend more of your money to fix a Shaw problem.
Shaw should work with you on this---just one opinion.
A. Weldy
On using the Tubbs approach, you shouldn't be expected
to spend more of your money to fix a Shaw problem.
Shaw should work with you on this---just one opinion.
A. Weldy
The people at Shaw are decent people.
Give them a call.
If they are having issues such as this, and i were them, i'd want to hear about it, make it right, and correct these issues for the future!
If you don't tell them, then they don't know. They can't make things right with you. And they can't correct the issue.
You don't stay in business by pissing people off.
Poster on another forum ran a borescope through his new Savage and found what appears to be a gouge that runs the circumference of the bore about an inch from the muzzle.
That one is a head scratcher!
Give them a call.
If they are having issues such as this, and i were them, i'd want to hear about it, make it right, and correct these issues for the future!
If you don't tell them, then they don't know. They can't make things right with you. And they can't correct the issue.
You don't stay in business by pissing people off.
Poster on another forum ran a borescope through his new Savage and found what appears to be a gouge that runs the circumference of the bore about an inch from the muzzle.
That one is a head scratcher!
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Orr89rocz
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Idk how mine looks as i never had a scope thru the bore. 257 rob for a pa woods deer hunter so match grade wasn’t necessary. Also have a shaw 458 win mag
both copper fouled bad early on. The 458 i havent shot as much and for good reason. I found a suitable load with 300 gr hollowpoints and 400 gr speers that produce good accuracy for 100 yr or less thick woods hunting
my roberts i wanted to see if i could get sub moa for certain and hopefully 1/2 moa or better with a hunting bullet. I shot many rounds thru it working on loads. It fouled bad and i used kg-12 to remove it. Scrubbed it with jb bore paste once. Then bought the tubbs kit and fired 45 of the 50. Then worked loads again. Eventually i found something that has shot Under 1/2 moa but it usually is in the 1/2 range. Doesnt foul as much now but I probably have 200 rounds thru it til this point. So shooting and the tubbs finish bullets helped. For a hunting gun in a custom caliber i wanted its fine
both copper fouled bad early on. The 458 i havent shot as much and for good reason. I found a suitable load with 300 gr hollowpoints and 400 gr speers that produce good accuracy for 100 yr or less thick woods hunting
my roberts i wanted to see if i could get sub moa for certain and hopefully 1/2 moa or better with a hunting bullet. I shot many rounds thru it working on loads. It fouled bad and i used kg-12 to remove it. Scrubbed it with jb bore paste once. Then bought the tubbs kit and fired 45 of the 50. Then worked loads again. Eventually i found something that has shot Under 1/2 moa but it usually is in the 1/2 range. Doesnt foul as much now but I probably have 200 rounds thru it til this point. So shooting and the tubbs finish bullets helped. For a hunting gun in a custom caliber i wanted its fine
I have a couple Shaw barrels and have been happy with, a little stubby Varmint barrel in 222 Rem that I won the PM Egg Shoot with. The other a 6x47mm Sporter that I rechambered to 6mm-204, great shooter that I used for control work and winter coyote hunting competitions, I expanded the muzzle after sticking it in the snow. I took a couple inches off the muzzle and went right back to killing coyotes with it.
I would get ahold of them and show them the pics and see if they will make it right, even installing the barrel for you.
I would get ahold of them and show them the pics and see if they will make it right, even installing the barrel for you.
rijndael
Silver $$ Contributor
I've seen the same thing in a Remington 5R. The gun was a laser.
Mark W
Gold $$ Contributor
I lived a few miles from Shaw for several years. I used to stop by their retail store on Saturday pretty regular. One slow winter day one of the older guys who has since passed away gave me a tour of the manufacturing facility. There were barrels full of blanks designated with other barrel makers and some gun makers names. I was told that this was most of their business and that I had probably owned one of their barrels even if I didn’t know it.
I never did buy one of their barrels but I did but one of their complete AR15s and I’ve been more than satisfied with its accuracy.
I’m a believer that one can get a good or bad barrel from most any makers these days, but your odds of a great barrel are greatly increased with the top line barrel makers. They are also more likely to work with you if you happen to draw the short straw and get a dud.
I never did buy one of their barrels but I did but one of their complete AR15s and I’ve been more than satisfied with its accuracy.
I’m a believer that one can get a good or bad barrel from most any makers these days, but your odds of a great barrel are greatly increased with the top line barrel makers. They are also more likely to work with you if you happen to draw the short straw and get a dud.
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I had one like that, shot factory Privi ammo to sight in the rifle initially, it shot 1.0-1.5 MOA and I was pleased, like yours it coppered bad and was hard to clean, after 15-20 shots accuracy went out the window 2.0-3.0 MOA at best. Cleaned it down to bare metal and gave it 50 counted strokes with Ed's Bore Paste. Absolutely amazing, Cold Shot, 1st shot, every shot, did not matter sub MOA 5 shot groups. It shot Hornady 139g Interlocks with 43.0g Varget 5 shots .5 MOA @ 100yds. I could clean to bare metal with 3 patches and Butch Bore shine. I kept it clean to bare metal as a fouling shot was not required. 1st shot cold was part of any group. I killed a lot of deer with that barrel, it was a $199.99 Savage Sporter Midway special. I have and will continue to buy Shaw barrels as well as others. I don't shoot for prizes, so their sporter barrels work for me just fine.
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Ackman
Gold $$ Contributor
Latest group with my Stevens 200. E.R. Shaw Savage sporter contour 24" in 250 Savage.
Barrel was $100 overrun special.
Rem brass.
Alliant Varmint powder
Fed 210M
Sierra 75gr HP Varmint bullet.
Shot off bench with bipod & rear bag. Temp 38°.
Range 100 yards.
Adjusted scope after first shot for elevation for 200 yard zero. Then brainfarted when i went to mark target forgetting that i adjusted scope.
Barrel was $100 overrun special.
Rem brass.
Alliant Varmint powder
Fed 210M
Sierra 75gr HP Varmint bullet.
Shot off bench with bipod & rear bag. Temp 38°.
Range 100 yards.
Adjusted scope after first shot for elevation for 200 yard zero. Then brainfarted when i went to mark target forgetting that i adjusted scope.
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I honestly don’t see what the problem is. They don’t advertise anywhere as a lapped barrel, and that barrel is exactly what a button barrel looks like when you drill a hole, ream the bore, then pull a button through it. What you see are the residual reamer marks ironed into the steel. Douglas is likely an exception as I think they do a much better job with their final ream and maybe a smaller reamed hole so the reamer marks are less noticeable. I’ve taken some pretty ‘economical’ barrels (green mountain mostly) and cast a lap, and lapped the bore before chambering and it’s pretty surprising how well those barrels shot. Perfectly acceptable for any hunting/varmint rifle with 1/2-3/4 MOA accuracy. No fouling to speak of and the interior finish looks like any other hand lapped custom. True benchrest barrels?..no, accurate and useful for the job intended?...heck yes.
That barrel looks as good or better than many factory jobs, so I would think you got what you paid for. You want less tooling marks and less fouling? Use the Tubbs, lap before chambering, or pony up for a better barrel to start.
That barrel looks as good or better than many factory jobs, so I would think you got what you paid for. You want less tooling marks and less fouling? Use the Tubbs, lap before chambering, or pony up for a better barrel to start.
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