Selling used items for new prices

[fr3db3ar]

It's not just this site. It seems hard to shop for guns on gun forums. You are always in an environment where there is a certain amount of demand so the prices are higher.

I've found a few good deals on gun forums but it's usually for accesories as opposed to guns themselves.

They're all made of gold don't you know. ;D

 

[people]

I have always wondered if anyone is buying used stuff for new prices. What really burns me is when I sell something for a fair used price and some guy asks if I will take some insulting low ball price, or something stupid in trade. Gulf clubs come up a lot same with dog kennel panels.

One guy here in town who is always trying to sell a turd he calls a boat will low ball me on everything because there is a scratch or no paperwork and no box, looks like it was "shot a lot". Hell I am selling a used firearm it has been shot a lot that is why it is priced where it is. If it was a collector piece I would be asking collector prices.

Then when the tables are turned he turns into a huge a$$hole spewing garbage about how we are trying to screw him.

 

[DennisH]

Then when the tables are turned he turns into a huge a$$hole spewing garbage about how we are trying to screw him.

I know a few like this!

 

[fredhorace77]

Attached is the ATF ruling on this subject. [br]
Executive summary: pistol to rifle = yes, rifle to pistol = no

thanks for the info but truthfully i think im more confussed now then before...that legal limbo talk is greek to me...ill just talk to my local ffl shop and see what they say...either way ill have a new gun... ;D

 

[TTLongRifle]

I'd though this was unique to our range. Even people in the same club, we have several dozens of clubs, want too much for what they sell and want what you have to sell for 50% off or more. Apparently this is a problem everywhere. If we were all reasonable it would save a lot of trouble. Deals would be made and kept.

 

[nosualc]

Any item's worth is determined by what somebody else is willing to pay for it.

If any item seems too expensive at a certain price, then I don't buy it. Maybe somebody else thinks different. That's their business.

When selling used things I tend to put a price on it that will ensure a quick sale; mostly because I don't want to mess around with it. I'll haggle a little, but not much, especially in the first couple of days.

Works for me, but if somebody else wants to do different, that's their business.

-nosualc

 

[fredhorace77]

Just stoped by and talked to my local ffl class3 dealer and he said its fine to turn the rifle action into a pistol on the 10/22 as long as its in a pistol stock and doesnt have a sholder mount stock. He said the action and serial number of the action has absolutely nothing to do with it. It is simply to do witht the barrel length and what type of stock it has on it.

Ill even go a step further and call local ATF agent and see what he says..ill keep you posted

 

[fredhorace77]

Just stoped by and talked to my local ffl class3 dealer and he said its fine to turn the rifle action into a pistol on the 10/22 as long as its in a pistol stock and doesnt have a sholder mount stock. He said the action and serial number of the action has absolutely nothing to do with it. It is simply to do witht the barrel length and what type of stock it has on it.

Ill even go a step further and call local ATF agent and see what he says..ill keep you posted

just spoke with ATF in washington and they are going to check on one more thing before they give me the final word but the field office said at worse ill have to pay a transfer tax of $5 ...so the verdict is still not in on everything yet...however it is legal to do but in the end i may have to pay $5 to transfer it as a pistol...so ill keep you posted

 

[1holeaddict]

I would like to chime in with some food for thought. First off i am pleased to be part of such a professional forum. Most and i will stress MOST of the members are professionals. I have had pleasurable dealings with many members. I thank those who gave me good deals and also those who purchased from me. Now here comes the food : What gets me is the Arm Chair Quarterbacks who feel like they need to chime in on an ad that they have no interest in and cause the seller grief. Next are the lowballers who try to steal things off of u and offer u half of what u are asking. Lastly as far as pricing goes Hmmm well guys lets all face it we are talking about the ruination of the world here. MONEY!!! Just think what life would be like without it ;D ;D ;D

 

[BigDMT]

Just stoped by and talked to my local ffl class3 dealer and he said its fine to turn the rifle action into a pistol on the 10/22 as long as its in a pistol stock and doesnt have a sholder mount stock. He said the action and serial number of the action has absolutely nothing to do with it. It is simply to do witht the barrel length and what type of stock it has on it.

Ill even go a step further and call local ATF agent and see what he says..ill keep you posted

just spoke with ATF in washington and they are going to check on one more thing before they give me the final word but the field office said at worse ill have to pay a transfer tax of $5 ...so the verdict is still not in on everything yet...however it is legal to do but in the end i may have to pay $5 to transfer it as a pistol...so ill keep you posted

Don't worry about naysayers, its legal. Its just the same as when a fella wants to make a "sawed off shotgun" with a shorter than legal rifle length barrel. Less than 16" or whatever it is...might have to jump through a small hoop or two, but it can be done very easily.

Did you know that when you buy a bare unbarreled action of ANY kind it has to be registered as a handgun?
If you turn it into a rifle it does not have to be re-registered as far as I know. But if the firearm is registered as a rifle and you put a pistol length barrel on it, its just a matter of meeting the requirements and registering the firearm properly

 

[fredhorace77]

yea i hate to come to any conclusions yet....one field officer stated that it matter what the original action was intended for...if it was born a rifle...then in order to make it a pistol i would have to do an ATF form 4 and pay 5 dollars....but he also told me to call washington and ask them....they said they would call me back tomorrow...the person that is in charge of those things was out of the office i was told..i also emailed them a picture of exactly what i was wanting to build and what it originally looked like...i will keep you all informed..

p.s. sorry for hijacking your op...maybe i should just move this topic to a new topic...let me try

 

[BigDMT]

Attached is the ATF ruling on this subject. [br]
Executive summary: pistol to rifle = yes, rifle to pistol = no

Thanks Sleepygator. It clearly states in the last few paragraphs of the document that what Mr. fredhorace77 is trying to do with his Ruger 10/22 is perfectly legal so long as he meets the requirements and registers it properly. CASE CLOSED.

 

[fredhorace77]

Thanks Sleepygator. It clearly states in the last few paragraphs of the document that what Mr. fredhorace77 is trying to do with his Ruger 10/22 is perfectly legal so long as he meets the requirements and registers it properly. CASE CLOSED.

i havent heard back yet...but i have a feeling that this is going to be true....so far the only thing for sure they told me that to do a ATF Form 4 for a pistol is only 5 dollars...they said other guns like machine guns was higher...he said the fees range from 5 dollars to 200 dollars depending on what the weapon is

 

[Steve Blair]

Thanks Sleepygator. It clearly states in the last few paragraphs of the document that what Mr. fredhorace77 is trying to do with his Ruger 10/22 is perfectly legal so long as he meets the requirements and registers it properly. CASE CLOSED.

[br]
I agree, but that's not the way Fred stated it. The registration aspect was missing. Just buying the parts and assembling it is not adequate. So, it is legal when following ATF registration procedures and illegal if not.

 

[BigDMT]

Thanks Sleepygator. It clearly states in the last few paragraphs of the document that what Mr. fredhorace77 is trying to do with his Ruger 10/22 is perfectly legal so long as he meets the requirements and registers it properly. CASE CLOSED.

[br]
I agree, but that's not the way Fred stated it. The registration aspect was missing. Just buying the parts and assembling it is not adequate. So, it is legal when following ATF registration procedures and illegal if not.

Oh I see...very true, very true. Reading his original post, it does seem that he did not know of the law he was breaking. I suppose he was just going to put it together wasn't he? Good thing we brought it to his attention or else he probably would have been in possession of an illegal firearm before long.

 

[FroggyOne2]

It is funny, after I started reading this thread, I have noticed more and more stuff for sale for what it cost new!

 

[Steve Blair]

Caveat emptor!

 

[BigDMT]

Caveat emptor!

I'm not sure much folks speak Latin on this site

 

[NorCalMikie]

It translates to "CYA".

If you have something for sale that has been used once and looks as good as new, should someone expect you to give it away?

 

[Hombre0321]

if it's been "used" only once and looks like new it's still used, why would anyone buy this used for the same price as "New"? Well there just may be a reason to do that. One would be if this used what ever can't be found on the new market. Another would be wait time, if I can buy your used and get it now then why not do that? lots of Pro's and Con's here folks, but that is not what this post was about. Is it?

There are a ton of Good Value deals on the classified here as well as on Benchrest Central. But not all of these items are good deals or even fair deals. That's an easy fix, don't bother with those deals. I rarely look at them more than a glance.

I don't want anyone to give away there stuff, I also hate the low baller guys who want to offer almost nothing for some items. Easy fix there as well, as the seller don't do the deal. Sounds simple to me. I am all for paying a fair price for anything I am looking for, if from time to time I get a deal that's fine with me.

Roland