SELLERS/VENDORS BEWARE

[pirate ammo]

I've got hit myself a couple of times that's why I don't take cards anymore and stopped selling a lot of
stuff.

 

[br1111]

Please no contributions.

In past losses I have attempted to give sufficient
information to the local PD where the offender resides
and even the postal authority, and have never had either to show any interest at all. They elect to do nothing, pay is all the same.
The FBI want touch an internet fraud/theft case unless the value is 5K or greater. These offenders know their safety boundaries and stay w/in them. LDS

Hello Larry, i would have no problem contributing for your loss to recoup it. you are a first class guy and have been here for us for many years and thats a lot of money for you to just lose. if you decide let us know . thanks

 

[snowpro440]

Wow thats a $720k house , But then again its Commiefornia

 

[hoz53]

I have been scammed again on a fraudulent Credit Card sale.
The name used was:
Vernon Browne
3325 E 4Th St
Long Beach Ca, 90614
He ordered 2 triggers, his card info was approved,
and I shipped his order. Bottom line I am out 2 triggers and
$454.00. The privacy act is perfectly made for the criminal.
As a vendor I can't get any information from VISA, the issuing bank,
or the processing and financial co involved in my loss. Try depositing,
"we are sorry", in your bank account.
Since receiving the charge back notice, the supplied email and ph no
on this order have gone belly up. I thought when I quit drop shipping
I thought I was safe, but thats not so either. LDS

sorry to hear this has happened Larry..

 

[Cemetery21]

"donate $5 to Larry's paypal account".
I'm in too, if the gentleman will accept it. Not charity, just brothers trying to do something to help. It helps us to be able to help Larry.

 

[br1111]

"donate $5 to Larry's paypal account".
I'm in too, if the gentleman will accept it. Not charity, just brothers trying to do something to help. It helps us to be able to help Larry.

"donate $5 to Larry's paypal account".
I'm in too, if the gentleman will accept it. Not charity, just brothers trying to do something to help. It helps us to be able to help Larry.

very well said!

 

[hmcsr]

I have been scammed again on a fraudulent Credit Card sale.
I thought I was safe, but thats not so either. LDS

Larry,
As a possible alternative, have the buyer send cash via priority registered mail. Had that done for me once. It worked ok.

 

[LarryDScott]

Here is the deal and this is from my
beginning experience almost 20yrs ago.
If your not taking cards in the internet business,
you will never succeed. Buyers want convenience
and speed. People want it YESTERDAY. If I dont
provide that they go somewhere else that does.
The sad thing, the card companies risk nothing
in their part of my transactions. They get paid regardless
of how the deal goes down.
I appreciate everyone's kind offers, but what happened is
just part of, as they say, "just doing business" although
it's not the part I like. LDS

 

[urbanrifleman]

Here is the deal.

The BANKS have taken themselves out of all liability. The credit card companies, have been removed as being liable for any fraud (even if they facilitate the theft of CC numbers and info they are still not liable).

They have pushed it down to the little guy and corporate America has made themselves immune from prosecution or liability for pretty much anything. And it just going to get worse.

I have not been hit for a matching shipping to billing address claim yet. That would take a guy with serious balls or some serious connections. But when I was a victim of billing/shipping not matching fraud it was all in California.

My brand new company lost $3500 on two transactions. That is LOT of money to a little compnay like mine that is self financed.

 

[urbanrifleman]

PS: Your CC processor should go to bat for you if shipping and billing matched. Could be someone in the house used a card without knowledge or a pissed off wife... or maybe they were just trying to get stuff for free.

There should be a service were you can call someone in any town and they could send someone to the house and they would beat someones ass...

 

[NateHaler]

Larry, You might want to consider usps money order only or a personal check.

I don't do business with outfits who impose these sorts of outdated measures. It goes both ways.

Imagine have a storefront in California, where many vendors, e.g. LuluLemon, Apple, Louis Vitton, have a 'no interference' policy. Which means, gangs of thugs (aka shoplifters) show up, clean the place out while the employees stand aside and watch. And for thefts of $950 or less, the police are instructed to not even file a report, let alone have a case be prosecuted.

So who pays for that sort of crime. We all do. Increased prices. In retail, the term for losses due to theft is "shrinkage".

 

[Rick in Oregon]

It's my hope that the perp incorrectly installs the triggers and has an AD, shoots himself in the foot, leg, or hopefully his head. Would not help financially, but it would make all of us feel alot better!

So sorry Larry.

 

[Lone Hunter]

I don't do business with outfits who impose these sorts of outdated measures. It goes both ways.

Imagine have a storefront in California, where many vendors, e.g. LuluLemon, Apple, Louis Vitton, have a 'no interference' policy. Which means, gangs of thugs (aka shoplifters) show up, clean the place out while the employees stand aside and watch. And for thefts of $950 or less, the police are instructed to not even file a report, let alone have a case be prosecuted.

So who pays for that sort of crime. We all do. Increased prices. In retail, the term for losses due to theft is "shrinkage".

One reason I would not live in that state. I hear it’s a beautiful state but I don’t think I could live there. Was there in 1966 but don’t remember it. With all the restrictions it would be like living under communism. What would be your suggestion on how to stop this? I would like to see someone come up with a workable suggestion but I cannot think of any myself. I hate thieves.

 

[Fast14riot]

One line of defense you may have is to require signature on delivery, so you can prove to the CC company product was received and have a better chance of recovering cost.

 

[TrxR]

Some dealers here in Canada have started asking for some sort of ID like drivers license or firearms license for expensive items like scopes. They seem to be having the most problems with scope sales.

 

[BigBlueandGoldie]

This happens to my business (non-firearms related) all the time. I've quit fighting the chargeback as I've provided 100% proof of the transaction and I've NEVER ONCE won a dispute. It's bullshit really. Unfortunately, I've gotten to the point where I consider it a cost of doing business.

 

[Nick Caprinolo]

What is the reason Visa would not honor the charge? Was the card stolen?

 

[WVRJ]

Every aspect of life in today's world has been infected with crooks.They try to get you if you go online.You have to pay another crook to protect your computer.They try to hack you constantly.They try to break in your house when you're not home,or sometimes when you are.Every time you turn around,there's a new phone scam.I got a call yesterday that informed me that the local sheriff was on his way to arrest me for social security fraud,and the call was from the dept of social security.I played along for a while and wasted some of the sumbitch's time before I went off on him.I once had the same person call me five times over the course of a week and I actually felt like I had ran out of horrible things to call him and I finished it off by telling him I would be thrilled to shoot him if he would be so kind as to tell me where he was at.Farming is one of the few businesses that hasn't been overrun by crooks,and it's not as good as it once was.Deals used to be done and sealed with a handshake and that was binding.Most gun guys are also honest,and it's sad to hear that we also have crooks that are willing to rip off anybody they can and are basically untouchable.

 

[LarryDScott]

What is the reason Visa would not honor the charge? Was the card stolen?

He told the bank/card co that it was an unauthorized use. He didnt bother to return the triggers, call me and tell me he didnt order them or anything a reputable buyer would do. It was a rip off from the word go.
I called once and the person who answered the phone(business), said no one by the name of Browne worked there or had ever worked there and he knew nothing of the package. The next time I called the number was no longer in service. All of the emails I sent kicked back. It wasnt their first rodeo. LDS

 

[LarryDScott]

One line of defense you may have is to require signature on delivery, so you can prove to the CC company product was received and have a better chance of recovering cost.

I copied the USPS delivery receipt showing date and time delivered, along w/my mailing label receipt, but that apparently is not evidence.
LDS