Second Amendment History in Context

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Just a reminder of the second amendment's historical understand as well as the Heller decision:

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[mikecr]

Bottom line: it was horribly written..
If there is anything that should be clear-cut and plainly described -it's our rights.
Yet, they muddled every single intent with embellishments.

So, if I knew "how to comprehend language", and I really want 'arms' to mean guns, and I really really want this right to 'not be infringed' upon, then how do I understand thousands of gun laws and regulations with which I am bound today?
Seems pretty clear to me that my gun ownership today is NOT a right.. And then, neither is yours.

The justices will eventually get around to this reality. Will they declare it all infringement?
NOPE
If they did, leaving fewer infringements on gun ownership, Congress would immediately act to flat out remove the 2A. And before you're sure that I'm crazy, you should consider this possibility on the horizon.

So how will justices rule on written garbage of the day, to keep everything just the way it is?
They will want to do this.
But how?
We really need both sides to be careful not to force a broad ruling, or SCOTUS to cast away such an opportunity.

 

[drop_point]

Bottom line: it was horribly written..
If there is anything that should be clear-cut and plainly described -it's our rights.
Yet, they muddled every single intent with embellishments.

So, if I knew "how to comprehend language", and I really want 'arms' to mean guns, and I really really want this right to 'not be infringed' upon, then how do I understand thousands of gun laws and regulations with which I am bound today?
Seems pretty clear to me that my gun ownership today is NOT a right.. And then, neither is yours.

The justices will eventually get around to this reality. Will they declare it all infringement?
NOPE
If they did, leaving fewer infringements on gun ownership, Congress would immediately act to flat out remove the 2A. And before you're sure that I'm crazy, you should consider this possibility on the horizon.

So how will justices rule on written garbage of the day, to keep everything just the way it is?
They will want to do this.
But how?
We really need both sides to be careful not to force a broad ruling, or SCOTUS to cast away such an opportunity.

You're wrong according to not only SCOTUS but the writings of those that ratified the second amendment, those that wrote it, and most all other people on this site.

The question is "how" and "why" infringements were allowed in the first place.

But if you're going to argue about the word "arms", you obviously didn't watch the video.

 

[Coyotefurharvester]

Certainly after watching the video, you would be clear about the content, context and historical meaning of the 2nd amendment. Being clear and informed also makes one realize just how dangerous it is for the democrats to of aligned themselves with the WEF(great reset) and Klaus Schwab's view of a new world order(globalization) where your right to private property, elected representation and self protection are NONEXSTENT. And also why the Biden supreme court nominee refused to explain her position, constitutionally, on numerous common words(like what is a woman) or even if she would interpret the constitution as written. Which is the whole point of the supreme court. (Edit to fix a spell check)

 

[22BRGUY]

To me it is PERFECTLY CLEAR!
Throughout world history, governments ALWAYS WORK in Their OWN Best Interest.
They ALWAYS HAVE and ALWAYS WILL and our Founding Fathers knew this WELL!
POWER CORRUPTS! and ABSOLUTE POWER CORRUPTS ABSOLUTELY!
POWER IS AN ADDICTION! of the Highest Magnatude!
The word "ARMS" tells me our Founding Fathers foresaw New possible inventions beyond
just "firearms" and today we are familiar with "Nuclear Arms" and hear about High
Frequency Inventions and Bio Weapons that almost seem to make "guns" seem obsolete.
I watched a clip recently about some of the "Black Ops" of this government that have
been held back from the Public, claiming this is the Most Murderous government
in World History.....So.....Am I to TRUST them with my Personal Safety?
I couldn't imagine a More Clearly written Document possible with my feeble mind
than what they wrote.

 

[22BRGUY]

Bottom line: it was horribly written..
If there is anything that should be clear-cut and plainly described -it's our rights.
Yet, they muddled every single intent with embellishments.

So, if I knew "how to comprehend language", and I really want 'arms' to mean guns, and I really really want this right to 'not be infringed' upon, then how do I understand thousands of gun laws and regulations with which I am bound today?
Seems pretty clear to me that my gun ownership today is NOT a right.. And then, neither is yours.

The justices will eventually get around to this reality. Will they declare it all infringement?
NOPE
If they did, leaving fewer infringements on gun ownership, Congress would immediately act to flat out remove the 2A. And before you're sure that I'm crazy, you should consider this possibility on the horizon.

So how will justices rule on written garbage of the day, to keep everything just the way it is?
They will want to do this.
But how?
We really need both sides to be careful not to force a broad ruling, or SCOTUS to cast away such an opportunity.

YES! THEY ARE ALL INFRINGEMENTS! Simple LOGIC and a Basic Understanding of the
English Language and Self Honesty over Self Interest and Political Leanings would
make it all Obvious. But of course Money and Power far too often, that favors those that
stand to gain personally from a Twisted Word Interpretation with Twisted Logic
prevails, as if TRUTH IS SOME NEBULOUS ENTITY.
Our Entire Election System and Term Limits System Needs an Overhaul! IMHO

 

[joshb]

Just watch what happens when a lawyer gets involved! Plain speech can be twisted in a lot of self serving ways!

 

[sw282]

lf you really want to know the true meaning of the word ''lnfringe'', start messing around with the property line between you and your neighbor. Try breaking in line at the grocery store or theatre. Better not try hogging the armrest on your next flight or train ride either. lnfringe simply means ''Dont mess with me or my stuff''. The Founding Fathers knew this just as well as we do.

 

[CharlieNC]

Our founding fathers were a collection of the smartest and wisest individuals in the history of the world. Today there are many intent on altering the interpretation of their works, because the current libs do not agree with the principles of the Constitution. But those wise men anticipated this and equipped us accordingly.

 

[jdh47]

Since shortly after the founding fathers died the Constitution has been twisted, tortured and taken out of context to allow just about every liberal Marxist whim that could be thought of. That's how Renquist found his "penumbra". In writing for the majority in Roe, Blackmon contradicted himself and the court's decision. In finding that the fourteenth "must've meant" a right of an individual to take the life of her unborn they decide it is justifiable to deny states' rights in favor of federal judicial fiat. The high court has kept this tradition of torturing the true meaning of the Constitution as written by the founders in the language of their time.
If the Second Amendment means not what it says what then about the other Amendments? It was truly wise and proper to deny the right to Amend the Constitution by the whim of future Congressional action. Not having a crystal ball those wise men drew conclusions from their study of the history of Governments and of Man.

 

[22BRGUY]

.. .

Since shortly after the founding fathers died the Constitution has been twisted, tortured and taken out of context to allow just about every liberal Marxist whim that could be thought of. That's how Renquist found his "penumbra". In writing for the majority in Roe, Blackmon contradicted himself and the court's decision. In finding that the fourteenth "must've meant" a right of an individual to take the life of her unborn they decide it is justifiable to deny states' rights in favor of federal judicial fiat. The high court has kept this tradition of torturing the true meaning of the Constitution as written by the founders in the language of their time.
If the Second Amendment means not what it says what then about the other Amendments? It was truly wise and proper to deny the right to Amend the Constitution by the whim of future Congressional action. Not having a crystal ball those wise men drew conclusions from their study of the history of Governments and of Man.

MAKE NO MISTAKE! There is a "group" of people that are and have been Intent on
Destroying this Nation and the Principles on which it stands since the Very Beginning!
Today Many of these same people are in the highest offices of our
government and Purposely leading it down that very path of destruction. The Media
is Totally complicit in ruining the morals and principals of this nation and its youth
and they are Masters of Deception in perverting the minds and emotions of those
that listen to them and They are Allowed to act with impunity.
The people focus on the Personalities of those in political office or those trying to
gain political influence Without ever questioning the Credibility of the Sources of
information that form their perceptions.
Until there is ACCOUNTABILITY RESTORED to both the Media and those political
types of All stripes, We the People will remain afloat in an Ocean of Lies!

 

[Bocephus]

Just watch what happens when a lawyer gets involved! Plain speech can be twisted in a lot of self serving way

An attorney aquaintance once said, “It’s 99% of the lawyers that give the rest of us a bad name.”
He admittedly was not a math major, but assured everyone that he wasn’t off more than one or two percentage points either way.
Stats like this really makes one appreciate the GOOD ones!

 

[Bocephus]

One of the best single-page 2A articles I am aware of.
Posted here by permission of CJ Hadley, owner, publisher, editor of Range Magazine.
If the attachment isn’t legible click link:

RANGE magazine RANGEdex

rangedex.com

Then scroll down to Spring 2013 P-4

 

[Louisiana Shooter]

IF THE FOUNDING FATHERS WERE HERE AND ALIVE NOW, we wouldn't even be having this conversation because they would have risen up LONG AGO and taken care of this problem. They would have really "taken up arms". It wouldn't just be a saying as it is today.

There would be no such thing as a "Democrat" as we know them today. They would all be dead....as a result of "infringement" upon a BUNCH of our Constitutionally recognized rights.

They died to get them.........and they died to keep them. They did it for their generation as well as the ones to follow. Knowing full well the costs to stay free...........paid the ultimate price with out being able to reap the benefits themselves.

Wish we had more like them. I don't know if there are enough willing to do the same in our generations. We (generally) don't seem to be concerned about anything unless it affects us directly. That, beyond any other reason is how they have/will strip us of our rights. Because we don't care......as long as it doesn't bother us directly.