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Scopes

I am in the process of building my wife a new gun and not sure what scope to put on it. Will be used at 4 to 600 yard shooting. I have a 12X42 Nightforce on her Dasher now but she cant see holes in the target so I thought of upgrading eather to a 15X55 Nightforce are a March 10X60. Would like some input from anyone who has shot with eather are both. Thanks
Terry Pohl
 
TerryPohl said:
I am in the process of building my wife a new gun and not sure what scope to put on it. Will be used at 4 to 600 yard shooting. I have a 12X42 Nightforce on her Dasher now but she cant see holes in the target so I thought of upgrading eather to a 15X55 Nightforce are a March 10X60. Would like some input from anyone who has shot with eather are both. Thanks
Terry Pohl

Terry - foregive me for taking a different point of view on your project, but I suggest you try another approach. Sighting instruments are not the same as spotting instruments and trying to make a rifle scope do double duty can often become an exercise in futility.
I'd suggest you select a rifle scope that meets her needs (perhaps even the one she currently favors) and invest in a good spotting scope.
 
40X you have a good point there, she has been after me to get a good spotting scope also. I guess that will be my next purchase. But would still like to get her the best of the two and would appreciate any input on them, I know they are both good scopes. She likes her 42 power NF now just trying to make her happy and give her a little more advantage, even though she is tough to beat at times now.
Thanks
Terry
 
Since she already has a nightforce and she is familar with that type of scope,get another nightforce to keep her with what she likes already.
 
TerryPohl said:
... just trying to make her happy and give her a little more advantage, even though she is tough to beat at times now.
Thanks
Terry


Must be love. If my wife was coming even close to beating me I'd confine here to a thirty dollar BSA Optics 4x32mm Rim Fire Series .22 & Air Gun Riflescope. Don't get me wrong. I love her madly; have for over fifty years. But I don't let her win at the range. ;)
 
Hi
Up till a few weeks ago I ran 2 x BR 12 x 42's and a sightron 10 x 50 x 60 and I am very happy with both types of scopes.
I then had an chance to get a 10 x 60 March, I put this on my 1000y gun WOW !!! I shot it last weekend and WOW!!!.
No way was I going to spend 3.5k on a scope my NF's and Sightron are plenty good.
March WOW !!!! I was on 60x at 1000y field of view is narrow but clarity was awesome, nice trick was in the afternoon the mirage was up and most guys wound down to mid 20's, I put the diopter ring in and shot again on 60x, worth the $ ??? I don't know but dam they are good, I got mine cheap $1500. the guy owed me for other stuff so I took it as full payment and I don't regret it one bit.
I still think it would be hard to part with 3.5k but ask me again in 6 months.
Gadget
 
given the distances you want to shoot, there is no scope or spotting scope that will reliably see bullet holes IF there is any mirage.

In F class, I get to see all of these scopes. The march and new NF Comp offer slightly better target clarity but with any mirage, that bullet hole is going to be elusive.

If the range allows, my suggestion is to set her up with a wireless camera system so you can view her shots on a monitor on the bench.

no more guessing, no more fussing. BANG - there is the hole.

simple.

and doesn't cost much these days.

Jerry
 
6MM holes at 600 yards are tough. I have KOWA 32x Highlanders and that is as good as it gets. If conditions are nor right or you have mirage it gets impossible. Black in the targets makes it tough, I'm glad we switched to blue. In scopes the best I have is 15x55 Competition but never tried it at 600. It is a very clear scope though. Matt
 
Gadget said:
I then had an chance to get a 10 x 60 March, nice trick was in the afternoon the mirage was up and most guys wound down to mid 20's, I put the diopter ring in and shot again on 60x
I guess I do not understand what you meant by putting the diopter ring in so you could shoot at 60X in the mirage?
 
Gadget
I feel the same way as you do with the march 10-60 and nf. Then a friend of mine bought the 8-80 march and after shooting with that i would never consider buying a 10-60 the 8-80 is that much better. If i ever save up enough money to buy a march it will be a 8-80 but it will still be hard to buy one march when you can get 3.5 nf br's for the same money.
 
I'm a member at Piedmont Gun club and during competition i have had a chance to look through most all makes of scopes and from what i see mother nature dictates what and how much you can see. The only time i have ever been able to see 6mm bullet holes was very early morning and only for a short time regardless of power. Heck i thought one time i would be mister smarty pants so i took my telescope for viewing planets up there and it was no better than my rifle scope, my telescope is about 4 feet long saw a lot of mirage :-\
 
snakepit said:
Gadget said:
I then had an chance to get a 10 x 60 March, nice trick was in the afternoon the mirage was up and most guys wound down to mid 20's, I put the diopter ring in and shot again on 60x
I guess I do not understand what you meant by putting the diopter ring in so you could shoot at 60X in the mirage?

March scopes (the 10-60x52 anyhow) comes with a thin ring that you can screw into the objective or sunshade. It changes the depth of field (f-stop I think?). I forget the official name for it. Anyhow, when the mirage is extensive, it can give you a different look and sometimes make it easier to keep using a higher power.
 
Jay Christopherson said:
snakepit said:
Gadget said:
I then had an chance to get a 10 x 60 March, nice trick was in the afternoon the mirage was up and most guys wound down to mid 20's, I put the diopter ring in and shot again on 60x
I guess I do not understand what you meant by putting the diopter ring in so you could shoot at 60X in the mirage?

March scopes (the 10-60x52 anyhow) comes with a thin ring that you can screw into the objective or sunshade. It changes the depth of field (f-stop I think?). I forget the official name for it. Anyhow, when the mirage is extensive, it can give you a different look and sometimes make it easier to keep using a higher power.
Thanks for the explanation. It must work pretty good if it enables him to shoot at 60 power when most other guys were down to the mid 20's power because of the mirage.
 
Thanks for all the input. I know she will not see holes at 600 but we do load work and some practice at 400 and 500 here behind my house and if she could see them at that ranges she would be satisfied (I hope). I put her a 3X buster on her 42 but she don't like it very much so I guess I have to get higher on the power.
Tanks a lot .
Terry
 
bdale said:
I'm a member at Piedmont Gun club and during competition i have had a chance to look through most all makes of scopes and from what i see mother nature dictates what and how much you can see. The only time i have ever been able to see 6mm bullet holes was very early morning and only for a short time regardless of power. Heck i thought one time i would be mister smarty pants so i took my telescope for viewing planets up there and it was no better than my rifle scope, my telescope is about 4 feet long saw a lot of mirage :-\
+1 Later! Frank
 
TerryPohl said:
Thanks for all the input. I know she will not see holes at 600 but we do load work and some practice at 400 and 500 here behind my house and if she could see them at that ranges she would be satisfied (I hope). I put her a 3X buster on her 42 but she don't like it very much so I guess I have to get higher on the power.
Tanks a lot .
Terry
If you have your own range you absolutely need a target cam setup. Later! Frank
 

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