Savage threads to Remington threads

[6xcshooter]

Is it possible to take a large shank savage ( criterion barrel) and turn the threads down to make it a remage? would probably have to turn the barrel too? Would it turn out decent looking? or is not worth doing?

 

[Ggmac]

I'm a little confused . The barrel is the part you need to turn , yes you would have enough material , BUT ,unless you can do the work ,I personally don't think it is worth it . It's usually better in the long run to get a new barrel

 

[scope eye]

There is enough "meat" or material to do that, but you will also have to rechamber it, It will be basically the same as a set back or rethroat. That is a nice barrel you have there "Criterion" so it is well worth it. a contoured blank is well over $200.00

Dean

 

[shortgrass]

Would it be worth the cost for all the 'extra' machine work?

 

[scope eye]

In machining a barrel the most time consuming part is "centering" or "zeroing" it in the lathe. After that everything else is straight forward, and with the barrel already chambered 90% of the cutting is done. Profiling is also time consuming among other things which is not an issue here. So there is not a lot of extra machine work.

Dean

 

[shortgrass]

another "all ya' gotta' do is"

 

[scope eye]

After I read your signature I was a little hesitant to answer, but then I figured nothing I stated wasn't true. Being able to Chamber a barrel does not make you a gunsmith or a machinist, but it is something that can be taught and with some practice can be an acquired skill. And with every subsequent barrel you complete, reducing your time to complete the task and leveling off after a while. That would explain the surge in home gunsmithing lathes like Grizzly ECT.

Dean

 

[Riesel]

I think before I went through the song and dance to make it a Remage conversion I would turn it down to Remington 700 barrel specs. Plenty of barrel there to do that.

 

[shortgrass]

Please, go on scope eye! I'm just a dumb ar$e that started my career in machining in 1974, when I graduated from high school (that was when tooling came off of tool & cutter grinders instead of coming out of a little plastic box). I chambered my first barrel in 1991, while I was in gunsmithing school (MCC class of '93). I generally chamber between 30 and 50 custom bbls a yr. , sometimes a few more than that. I've got 8 jobs in the shop looking at me now,,, 7 of those are complete builds. Got 3 muzzle threading jobs for 'cans', a Brown synthetic blank to be finished and a Browning A5 to go through. Not to mention the detatchable magazine bottom metal that a guy decided to install himself, because someone on the interdnet told him "it's so easy a caveman can do it". Well, it must not have been and looks even worse! Oh!, and I still stay involved in some custom machining. I've had a reasonably steady stream of punch and form dies ordered that I make for a local company (I do the heat treating & tempering, too). I do my "own thing' on Sunday afternoons and I'm in the process of stocking a custom for myself in a fair flitch of English Walnut. So please, go on and tell me all about it. I value my time, my skills, my tools and my tooling,,,, as do my customers 'cause they keep coming back and could go anywhere they wanted, if they so desired......

 

[scope eye]

That reference wasn't directed towards you, I was just saying that I and many on this forum can chamber a barrel and do not claim to be a Gunsmith or machinist. It was just something I was taught and I have improved my skill over time as well as others have, it takes me longer than I wish it did but they do come out great. I keep a similar barrel close by that I reference several times during the process and that helps a lot. Once again I read your signature it is obviously a sore spot with you, so good luck to you with dealing with that. Although you have once again validated that is why shooters have ventured out on there own and not have to deal with gunsmiths. Being the pleasant natured people that they are Sarc

Dean

 

[Ggmac]

I'm sure many real gunsmiths , not keyboard or hobby smiths will try to persuade the client to not throw away money . The only way is feasible ,is if the op could do it himself . If he could do it himself the only question that needs to be answered is there enough material to do so . That answer is yes . So if he , the op , could do it himself he could have just measured it .
Just my $.02 . A retired smith that still keeps liability ins . Yes , even after 10 yrs of retirement I've been advised it's prudent to cover your butt .

 

[ttfreestyle]

Please, go on scope eye! I'm just a dumb ar$e that started my career in machining in 1974, when I graduated from high school (that was when tooling came off of tool & cutter grinders instead of coming out of a little plastic box). I chambered my first barrel in 1991, while I was in gunsmithing school (MCC class of '93). I generally chamber between 30 and 50 custom bbls a yr. , sometimes a few more than that. I've got 8 jobs in the shop looking at me now,,, 7 of those are complete builds. Got 3 muzzle threading jobs for 'cans', a Brown synthetic blank to be finished and a Browning A5 to go through. Not to mention the detatchable magazine bottom metal that a guy decided to install himself, because someone on the interdnet told him "it's so easy a caveman can do it". Well, it must not have been and looks even worse! Oh!, and I still stay involved in some custom machining. I've had a reasonably steady stream of punch and form dies ordered that I make for a local company (I do the heat treating & tempering, too). I do my "own thing' on Sunday afternoons and I'm in the process of stocking a custom for myself in a fair flitch of English Walnut. So please, go on and tell me all about it. I value my time, my skills, my tools and my tooling,,,, as do my customers 'cause they keep coming back and could go anywhere they wanted, if they so desired......

Not necessary, guys don't drag this forum down like some other forums geez. Good luck and God Bless.

 

[savagedasher]

Yes and it easy. Turn down the area that is needed for the Remington threads Depending on how you want it.
Large shank savage nut and lug. Or large shank savage nut and Remington lug.
Larry

 

[kendog]

Yes and it easy. Turn down the area that is needed for the Remington threads Depending on how you want it.
Large shank savage nut and lug. Or large shank savage nut and Remington lug.
Larry

"It's real easy, when you know how"
I think Muddy Waters or maybe some other old blues guy said something like this when asked about his guitar playing.

 

[Dusty Stevens]

Heres my take- itll cost more for a chamber job than a new criterion blank so youd be putting way more in a used barrel than a new one is worth. Unless you can do the job on your own its not worth it

 

[savagedasher]

"It's real easy, when you know how"
I think Muddy Waters or maybe some other old blues guy said something like this when asked about his guitar playing.

I have a small shank savage barrel size that is threaded Remington on the chamber end and uses a small shank savage nut. Larry

 

[scope eye]

I have done that also, a Remage barrel nut is almost $60.00, and a Savage one is $15.00. The transition is right under the recoil lug.

Dean

 

[Ggmac]

Gentlemen , if the op can not do the work himself it's not up to us to argue " this way or that way " . What can be said is if he sold the old barrel for ,say $100 , he would be that much closer to having a new barrel , re age or other .

 

[Ggmac]

Sorry I forgot , not related to this thred just a FYI , PTG sells a remington thread protector . It can be used to make 2 remington nuts , for Remage type installs . The barrel thread protector is available from midway for $20 .
There's more than 1 way to skin a cat !
Yes it's aluminum , but it works .

 

[savagedasher]

Sorry I forgot , not related to this thred just a FYI , PTG sells a remington thread protector . It can be used to make 2 remington nuts , for Remage type installs . The barrel thread protector is available from midway for $20 .
There's more than 1 way to skin a cat !
Yes it's aluminum , but it works .

With the nut regardless which one . The barrel can be changed from one Remington action to another . Larry