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Savage Long Range Benchrest Questions

Yesterday I was testing some loads in my 6 BR Savage Long Range Benchrest rifle in preparation for an egg shoot. Generally, I shoot 108 Berger match bullets in this rifle, which has a one in eight twist. My standard load is 29.8 grains Varget, Fed 205M primers, and seated slightly into the lands.

I had not been thrilled with the performance so I decided to try different distances off the lands. It seemed to like .009 off, putting 4 shots into .249 inch at 200 meters before kicking the fifth about an inch low and right. I don’t think that was me. I tried other seating depths and a few loads with Berger 105 hybrids and 105 A-max but performance was mediocre to poor. One string of the 108’s was seated .036 off the lands and that gave extreme diagonal stringing upper left to lower right and a 2.5 inch group.

My rests, bags and bench technique are good. My cases are sized with a Redding Type-s bushing full length die and concentricity is very good. When putting away the empties this morning, I noticed that at least half of the firing pin strikes were off-center. There was some cratering too, even though none of my loads were even close to hot. Would this have anything to do with the poor performance and what should I do about it?

Another thing I noticed was that underneath the bolt handle at the root, there was a piece of rubbery stuff with fibers in it that had come loose and was wadded up. Evidently it is intended to cushion the handle and prevent if from striking the action. I don’t think this affects accuracy, but I’m not sure it’s necessary. I don’t see it on my other Savage target action. I’m going to leave it off unless someone thinks there’s a good reason to replace it.
 
It's been years since I shot a 6 BR, so I'll leave the load stuff to someone else.

vtmarmot said:
When putting away the empties this morning, I noticed that at least half of the firing pin strikes were off-center. There was some cratering too, even though none of my loads were even close to hot. Would this have anything to do with the poor performance and what should I do about it?

Sounds like you need to send that bolt off to Gre-Tan Rifles to get the firing pin hole bushed. Basically, what you have is a big firing pin hole, and a small firing pin - one of the consequences of production tolerances. Yes, modern machinery is better than ever, but unless they want to make the parts backward-incompatible, they stay the way they were originally designed. Also, when the firing pin is fully retracted, it clears the hole in the bolt face and when release, may have to force its way back in a 'funnel' at the end of the cavity (as was explained to me). The work Gre-Tan does consists of drilling out the firing pin hole in the bolt face, inserting a solid plug, drilling and reaming to size a new precisely located firing pin hole. Then the pin is turned to a corresponding diameter. The plug they install is long enough that the pin will no longer retract all the way out of the hole when the bolt is cocked, so it should just go straight forward with less rattling around on the way forward when you pull the trigger ;)

That should a) fix the off-center primer strikes and b) take care of the primer cratering with loads that shouldn't be showing pressure.

Another thing I noticed was that underneath the bolt handle at the root, there was a piece of rubbery stuff with fibers in it that had come loose and was wadded up. Evidently it is intended to cushion the handle and prevent if from striking the action. I don’t think this affects accuracy, but I’m not sure it’s necessary. I don’t see it on my other Savage target action. I’m going to leave it off unless someone thinks there’s a good reason to replace it.

They started putting that on there because Rem-chester users are used to slapping the bolt down aggressively. When you do so on a Savage Target Action, the bolt handle bottoming out in the receiver slot tends to jar the sear loose and people complain about the gun not cocking. Actually it *does*, it just doesn't respond well to being beat on ::) For a target rifle, treated as a precision instrument, it should be fine with or without the little square of material. If it bugs you, or you want it fixed, call Savage customer service.
 
memilanuk said:
For a target rifle, treated as a precision instrument, it should be fine with or without the little square of material. If it bugs you, or you want it fixed, call Savage customer service.
Several months ago I called Savage Customer Service about replacement pads and I was told that they no longer use the pads. You were correct in your analysis of the purpose of the pad and there is no need to slam the bolt closed in a target rifle.
 
Just bought a NIB Model 12 LRP with the pad. Easy enough to make one out of felt is needed.
 

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