Savage axis help

[marazzi59]

Looking to tune up the primary extraction on 2 Savage axis rifles. Very familiar with how to do this on the 110 series but cant seem to crack this one. I don't want to send them out to a Smith so any ideas would be appreciated. Thanks

 

[std7mag]

How do you mean " primary extraction"?

I haven't looked at the difference between the extractors between Axis & 110.

 

[Bill K]

What, if any, is the difference between the extractors. If you want a kit to give it a little more holding, Gun Shack and others have a spring/ball bearing kit that will improve the holding power.

 

[marazzi59]

The extractor is fine. Primary extraction is the bolts last bit of rotation during unlocking moves the bolt back slightly to help break the brass case free from the chamber. The axis has the PE cam built into the bolt handle

 

[std7mag]

There is one guy around that does bolt work on the axis.
I know he does the bolt lift kits, plus he does other work.

Desh Ind.

Shop by Category Bolt Lift Kits Savage Axis Bedding Pillars Custom Dies

deshind.com

 

[Ggmac]

Looking to tune up the primary extraction on 2 Savage axis rifles. Very familiar with how to do this on the 110 series but cant seem to crack this one. I don't want to send them out to a Smith so any ideas would be appreciated. Thanks

Did you change the bolt handle on it ? Axis rifles are different than other savage rifles , in the beginning, lots of guys were using 110/10 bolt handles and no primary extraction .
If you can , take a pic of the rear action with the bolt partially open .

 

[marazzi59]

No it's the factory axis handle. I see the PE ramps but it just doesn't work well

 

[Ggmac]

Without pics Im just blind guessing.

 

[marazzi59]

 

[marazzi59]

 

[marazzi59]

The reciver ramp is only on one side, not both as the picture shows with 2 arrows

 

[Ggmac]

Only possible fix , besides swaping parts , is to shorten the bolt body . With the bolt in the receiver , you can measure with feeler gauges, the distance needed . It’s usually only .010 or less . Cheaper alternative is to find a friend with an axis and try his bolt handle . I have a half dozen or more ,I use to get manufacturing tolerance stacking eliminated .

 

[marazzi59]

I was thinking about shortening the bolt or welding the handle and reconturing. Thanks for the opinion

 

[Ggmac]

The bolt doesnt like being welded . At least the couple I tried . With the voids I found in them I think they are cast .

 

[LVLAaron]

Do aftermarket savage 110 bolt handles fit?

 

[marazzi59]

Yes they fit but don't have the PE cam for the axis action

 

[Ggmac]

Just a thought. Have you lapped your lugs , if so how much ? Is it the original bolt head ?
If you remove yor action from the stock, insert bolt and close while cocked , invert and use a feeler gauge between the bolt handle and receiver. Then do the same with the firing pin innthe fired position . Take measurements as before .
Did you adjust the firing pin depth ?

 

[marazzi59]

One is a complete rifle and the other is just a stripped action, the rifle was blueprinted and firing pin depth isnt adjustable

 

[Ggmac]

One is a complete rifle and the other is just a stripped action, the rifle was blueprinted and firing pin depth isnt adjustable

In the blue print , did they tru or cut the lugs ? If so that would move yourbolt further back ., removing some /all primary extraction

 

[boltfluter]

As Gmac mentioned, shortening the back of the bolt body is the easy fix. Keep us posted as you proceed.
Paul