Sales Tax...

[IdahoSharpshooter]

I was skimming the classifieds on Benchrest Central five minutes ago, and saw an ad for a BAT action.
The seller posted that he had to collect Pennsylvania sales tax. I have never heard of this before on a private sale. Is this common, or what?

A couple years ago, Idaho started collecting sales tax at gun shows, swap meets, etc. It's resulted in a lot of deals at the various shows that move out to the parking lot.

thanks,

Rich

 

[hoz53]

I was skimming the classifieds on Benchrest Central five minutes ago, and saw an ad for a BAT action.
The seller posted that he had to collect Pennsylvania sales tax. I have never heard of this before on a private sale. Is this common, or what?

A couple years ago, Idaho started collecting sales tax at gun shows, swap meets, etc. It's resulted in a lot of deals at the various shows that move out to the parking lot.

thanks,

Rich

if hes a dealer in PA who sells to someone in PA right? Is that the law there that just doesnt get adheared ro much.. Private individual must collect sales tax?

 

[JRS]

He is required by law to collect the tax. It is a matter of fairness to the business owner.

 

[DRNewcomb]

Generally, interstate sales create a sales tax liability in the state of the buyer, not the seller. Interstate buyers are generally required to pay a use tax in their home states, in lieu of sales tax, but this requires voluntary cooperation of the buyer and is seldom collected. I suppose that some small dealers don't know how to handle the sales tax on interstate sales.

 

[rkittine]

Also sales tax is collected if you order from an out of state vendor that has an operation in your state. You may order something from a Cabela's store in say New York and shipped to you in Idaho, but if Cabela's has a store in Idaho, you will have to pay the Idaho sales tax. At least for the moment we do not have a GSA (General Sales Tax) like Canada or a VAT (value added tax) like most European countries.

Having been a retailer, I can attest to the fact that most state governments do not take Non-Payment of sales tax by a vendor lightly.

Bob

 

[bsekf]

If you file NYS income taxes there is a line for paying sales tax on out of state purchases. If you fail to and get caught, I guess, you would be guilty of tax evasion. Amazon and private sales cost the states millions in lost sales tax.

Bill

 

[dkhunt14]

If you file NYS income taxes there is a line for paying sales tax on out of state purchases. If you fail to and get caught, I guess, you would be guilty of tax evasion. Amazon and private sales cost the states millions in lost sales tax.

Bill

Our state collects on Amazon. It is added to the bill. Matt

 

[DRNewcomb]

Our state collects on Amazon. It is added to the bill. Matt

This started in February for Mississippi. We also have a line on our income tax form for "use tax" collection but people normally leave it blank. I was a member of a gun club that ordered a lot of stuff (e.g. skeet) from out of state. The club was always careful to pay the use tax.

 

[rkittine]

I always pay Sales Tax on Amazon here in New York also. Bring a car or boat into New York (and many other states that I have lived in) even if you already own it and you pay sales tax when you register it.

Bob

 

[jdh47]

Ditto here as Texas collects for items bought from Amazon because they have a distribution center here. The states are getting more creative at taxation. For the greater good don't you know. Theory is that governments always spend your money better than you do.

Joe

 

[hoz53]

Ditto here as Texas collects for items bought from Amazon because they have a distribution center here. The states are getting more creative at taxation. For the greater good don't you know. Theory is that governments always spend your money better than you do.

Joe

i get charged by amazon sometimes. Even if they dont have a business location here i suppose if one of their sellers has a presence in your state you pay. if my local ffl transfers a firearm to me i purchased from an out of state dealer they do not collect sales tax. Im surprised my state (IN) hasnt passed a law requiring them to. The dont usually miss a trick when it comes to chiseling every dime out of the tax payers. The burden is on me to pay the tax in this case and we to have the line on the tax form for this.

 

[IdahoSharpshooter]

what was the old Beatles song, "I'm the Tax Man...and you're working for me..."?

I got a ticket several years ago here, for not wearing my seat belt. Plead not guilty and requested a trial. It was dismissed the morning of the court date because the officer failed to show up. I do not think anybody wanted to test that law on Constitutional grounds. Next year, the Idaho legislature changed a century old law to no longer allow traffic citations a court date.

 

[rkittine]

Most states have laws requiring you "Self Pay" sales tax if you have things shipped into you from out of state. Guess they do not have the time and resources to enforce, but with the proposed changes to the internet, that could all change.

And I think you are right that on Amazon it may also be based on the actual vendor and their location.

 

[Toolbreaker]

I've never had a single issue with paying taxes. That's how our system is designed & how it works. It's how my tax money is and can be spent that really burns my britches, sometimes.

Rich, I just looked at the seller-in-question's ad. Looks like he owns/operates a gun shop. If the action's part of his business inventory, he's pretty much obligated at that point.

 

[hoz53]

what was the old Beatles song, "I'm the Tax Man...and you're working for me..."?

I got a ticket several years ago here, for not wearing my seat belt. Plead not guilty and requested a trial. It was dismissed the morning of the court date because the officer failed to show up. I do not think anybody wanted to test that law on Constitutional grounds. Next year, the Idaho legislature changed a century old law to no longer allow traffic citations a court date.

yeah i think you can still request a trial here for a traffic ticket. At least part of the reason they are usually thrown out is because of the cost of the actual trial to the county city ect.

 

[hoz53]

I've never had a single issue with paying taxes. That's how our system is designed & how it works. It's how my tax money is and can be spent that really burns my britches, sometimes.

Rich, I just looked at the seller-in-question's ad. Looks like he owns/operates a gun shop. If the action's part of his business inventory, he's pretty much obligated at that point.

i and i think many people feel the same way. I would actually be happy tp pay taxes to live in this country if the gov didnt throw so much of it away
( according to me of coarse)

 

[hoz53]

Most states have laws requiring you "Self Pay" sales tax if you have things shipped into you from out of state. Guess they do not have the time and resources to enforce, but with the proposed changes to the internet, that could all change.

And I think you are right that on Amazon it may also be based on the actual vendor and their location.

yes as you say most state laws do say youre supposed to pay those taxes but as you know most of them arent paid. The total amount for the country must be a BIG number and state governments must be salivating at the thought of collecting all that. Gotta believe all these data centers they are building will one day track all that and the days of no sales tax on online purchases will be over. Hopefully that will help the brick and mortar stores. i dont want to see them disappear.

 

[Comrade Terry]

if my local ffl transfers a firearm to me i purchased from an out of state dealer they do not collect sales tax.

I had a local FFL try that on me for a $$ rifle. He didn't even get the transfer fee. He's also a VP at the gun club.

If Amazon charges state sales tax, they do it if they sold the product. If someone else sold it, and Amazon was only the fulfillment agent, they don't collect the tax.

 

[Larryh128]

Also sales tax is collected if you order from an out of state vendor that has an operation in your state. You may order something from a Cabela's store in say New York and shipped to you in Idaho, but if Cabela's has a store in Idaho, you will have to pay the Idaho sales tax. At least for the moment we do not have a GSA (General Sales Tax) like Canada or a VAT (value added tax) like most European countries.

Having been a retailer, I can attest to the fact that most state governments do not take Non-Payment of sales tax by a vendor lightly.

Bob

True statement for sure.

 

[JRS]

I've never had a single issue with paying taxes. That's how our system is designed & how it works. It's how my tax money is and can be spent that really burns my britches, sometimes.

Rich, I just looked at the seller-in-question's ad. Looks like he owns/operates a gun shop. If the action's part of his business inventory, he's pretty much obligated at that point.

It's owned by a well known, respected rifle-smith.