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Safety first… but

I know everyone recommends starting at minimum loads and work up towards max and watch for pressure signs. 1- with shortages of components, by the time I purchase a box of bullets and work up a ladder of loads for say two powders, I’ve used up 3/4 of the box of bullets. I don’t want to buy multiple boxes of one bullet in case my gun won’t shoot that particular bullet. Then I can’t find those bullets again. Is that what everyone else is doing or are you skipping a few of the lower loads? And if so is that safe?
2- the second part of that safety guideline is because “every gun is different and some may have higher pressures than others”. Makes sense, but how do the ammunition manufacturers do it. They make loads that are for most standard calibers and obviously a wide range of different guns.
Little help from the more experienced guys out there!!
 
Since this is for hunting, inside 100 yards, I see which bullets I can find, for example Nosler 130/140 for the 270. I look at Noslers Load Data, they usually list the most accurate load for various powders. I work around that, assuming is lower than max. But that is me...Thats how I save on supplies when in a chrunch
 
Is that what everyone else is doing or are you skipping a few of the lower loads?
If I have no experience with a powder lot in the cartridge I am loading for, I will shoot 5 shots, each 0.3 gr increments, starting about 1 gr above minimum and ending 1 gr below max. I use a chronograph and if my calculated velocities are out of line with the actual, I can stop before firing them all.

Then I input everything into GRT (Gordon's Reloading Tool - free) and run the OBT and pick the node I want to try for. But I know my water capacity of my fired cases, and usually have previous experience using that powder with another load.

But I don't start load development with a single box of the bullets I intend to use.
 
Then I input everything into GRT (Gordon's Reloading Tool - free) and run the OBT and pick the node I want to try for. But I know my water capacity of my fired cases, and usually have previous experience using that powder with another load.
I've been doing it this was too recently. Most impressive instance was with a 7x57mm No 1-RSI. This cartridge is watered down in factory form, and most data isn't much better. GRT helped me find a load with RL-16 that when I tested it after running their OBT sim, was within 20 fps of their prediction and just drills for a short barreled single shot. 2720 with a 150 from a 20" barrel is nothing to sneeze at.

GRT is a wonderful tool for the lazy, or those strapped for time and components. 16 rounds got me the load I'm using in my .25-06 this year. 2 rounds over chrono with mid range published load to check velocity, 4 more with a charge suggested by the OBT sim in GRT to verify speed, and 9 more to check seating depth. After picking the winner, I shot two rounds at a target 414 yards off to rough check drops. They landed 3 inches apart within 3 inches of point of aim. This is with a load and scope that I didn't have a month ago.
 
I've been doing it this was too recently. Most impressive instance was with a 7x57mm No 1-RSI. This cartridge is watered down in factory form, and most data isn't much better. GRT helped me find a load with RL-16 that when I tested it after running their OBT sim, was within 20 fps of their prediction and just drills for a short barreled single shot. 2720 with a 150 from a 20" barrel is nothing to sneeze at.

GRT is a wonderful tool for the lazy, or those strapped for time and components. 16 rounds got me the load I'm using in my .25-06 this year. 2 rounds over chrono with mid range published load to check velocity, 4 more with a charge suggested by the OBT sim in GRT to verify speed, and 9 more to check seating depth. After picking the winner, I shot two rounds at a target 414 yards off to rough check drops. They landed 3 inches apart within 3 inches of point of aim. This is with a load and scope that I didn't have a month ago.
Many of us, whether we admit it or not start with known loads and some also use GRT or QL or both, but with a newbie you have to be a little more careful. When I was starting out a few decades ago I had good luck starting with publish "most accurate loads" from manuals and working from there. I have a load from a friend in 300WBY that has worked in 4 different rifles mad in different countries and different decades. But I could improve if I were to take them for longer range. I have tried your way as well and it works, but it comes with experience.
 
One more thing to the op... If you do much serious reloading, get a chronograph. Now. Do not wait two years, do not pass go or collect $200, buy one now. They won't get cheaper, and knowing what your loads do is invaluable.
 
It depends on if this rifle is new to you or if already have prior experience with it. I’ve always started with a mid load but got bit hard about 15 years ago with a new 22/250. I started with mid book load a blew a primer with a killed case. Turns out it probably had a really tight bore and it made full speed and then some with a starting load.
 
I know everyone recommends starting at minimum loads and work up towards max and watch for pressure signs. 1- with shortages of components, by the time I purchase a box of bullets and work up a ladder of loads for say two powders, I’ve used up 3/4 of the box of bullets. I don’t want to buy multiple boxes of one bullet in case my gun won’t shoot that particular bullet. Then I can’t find those bullets again. Is that what everyone else is doing or are you skipping a few of the lower loads? And if so is that safe?
2- the second part of that safety guideline is because “every gun is different and some may have higher pressures than others”. Makes sense, but how do the ammunition manufacturers do it. They make loads that are for most standard calibers and obviously a wide range of different guns.
Little help from the more experienced guys out there!!
You don't get to have it both ways... and probably not what you want to hear...

If you stick to well known paths, you might get the benefit of a map that saves you getting lost.
If you trail blaze, then you better have strong feet...

To put this another way, the reason I advise rookies to stick with the more "common standards" is to avoid finding themselves trying to develop data without the benefit of being a ballistician with a full lab. Sticking with the more common standards means the ones with the pile of data behind them. If you buy obscure bullets, powders, primers, brass, in obscure calibers, expect to have trouble. These days even the common stuff is hard to get and common popularity can mean shortages.

As a rookie, try to use well established load data with known outcomes in known rifles, don't get caught trying to develop a load map where no man has set foot. Find out what a "Pet Load" means.

When I was a kid, that typically meant a round based on military standards that later turns into a sporting round. So ones like .30-06, 308 WIN, 223 REM etc., were going to be easier than wildcats.

That doesn't rule out ones like 7-08 or 7mmMag, it just means those old military based rounds are easier. Later on, when you get some more experience, there is no reason you can't branch out.

Of course, the way to shortcut all the agony, is to have a good mentor up front. They keep you out of trouble. Doing this solo with no background, makes it harder when you can't buy supplies at will.

In these times, the popularity of the cartridge keeps you out of trouble by having the most available ammo, components, guns, and data selections. That said, be careful not to confuse hype with popularity.

Want to see what's easy, go to your local gun store in the fall and look at what is taking up the most room on the ammo shelves. Look at which cartridges have the most flexibility in terms of bullets and the most load data, avoid the ones with few entries or options.

2. ..."but, how do the ammunition manufacturers do it"... By the time the OEM outfits are selling you a rig or ammo that shoots factory ammo to SAAMI or CIP specifications, the ballisticians have run hundreds to thousands of pressure tests. Then, aftermarket outfits also run hundreds to thousands more tests with their products to publish their manuals. The ballisticians have a long deep background by the time they are working for a lab or OEM outfit. They use pressure and velocity data along with their background to give you advice. Some designs are more than 100 years old, some were born yesterday. Guess which ones have the most available data with round robin confirmation from many labs? YMMV
 
As Region Rat noted, The answer to “how do they do it” is SAAMI, which of course stands for Small Arms and Ammunition Manufacturing Institute.

They set the standards and tolerances for a Factory arms and ammunition sold To the public.

That is why you can buy a 270 Factory Winchester at Academy, take a trip to South Africa, buy a box of 270 Winchester ammo of any brand, and have it work perfectly fine within the parameters of that cartridge.
 
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Thanks guys for all your responses!! I do a lot of reading here but very little posting. Heck you guys are my mentors!! I’m staying with the published info just trying to get the hunting loads close enough (1.5”)without burning thru components. And I just unpacked my new crono last week! Haven’t used it yet but looking forward to it!!
My sincere appreciation to all who responded!!
 
Thanks guys for all your responses!! I do a lot of reading here but very little posting. Heck you guys are my mentors!! I’m staying with the published info just trying to get the hunting loads close enough (1.5”)without burning thru components. And I just unpacked my new crono last week! Haven’t used it yet but looking forward to it!!
My sincere appreciation to all who responded!!
We know it is frustrating these days due to shortages and scarcity of the components you would like.

As a suggestion, describe the rig, caliber, and the bullet you would like to work with and maybe someone can suggest a Pet Load that will land you on your goals, or, so close that you don't end up running out of material before your season.
 
I go halfway and move up with two round groups in .4 increments. For hunting here in FL 90% of your shots are well within 100 unless I happen to be hunting a clear cut pine field so I only load for accuracy and not worry about velocity.
 
Yep, start with the best powder for bullet recommendation. And if 2 won't shoot close, more shots are a waste. Clean the barrel, if changing bullet brands.
 

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