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Rifle Basix PITA

Been having trouble with the savages pulling back in the rests when trying to shoot free recoil. It takes so much pull on the accutrigger that the rifle slides back. The only way to combat it was to tighten the front rest on the sides of the stock tight enough to hold it from pulling back. Well, I finally broke down and bought a couple of the Rifle Basix triggers. I've only gotten one installed so far because it turned out to be a nightmare to adjust it. Yes, I watched the video - several times. It just is not clear on exactly how to do the adjustment. After fooling with it for more than just a couple of hours, I figured out that it is an iterative process and you have to go back and forth between the two spring adjustment screws. I finally got it to work reliably, but it has the tiniest bit of creep before it trips and it is not as light as I would like it. I may be able to get it better if I fool with it some more.

Has anyone else found these triggers to be difficult to adjust to 4 oz? Yes, I got the right one, the SAV 2.
 
Something doesn't sound right. They should drop in and you should have them adjusted within 30 minutes, and that's due to fine tuning and getting all settings correct.

Sounds like maybe there is another problem somewhere.

I wish I was there to help.

Dennis

Let me know if you have any questions, I will do my best to help.

I figured out that it is an iterative process and you have to go back and forth between the two spring adjustment screws.

This should be the worst part of the trigger installation. I actually have an easier time with the SAV-2 than I had with a Jewell. I also have SSS Evolution triggers, now there tough to adjust. JMO
 
I having same issues except mine is only at 11 oz. I watched videos 6 or more times and spent hours on the blasted trigger. I hate I am going to have to spend $ to get out set up safely and low trigger pull

last week made sure by doing safety check by truing to fire on safe, and bumping the butt, and closing billy somewhat hard and all passed. Then had 3 slam fires by closing the bolt gently!!!
 
I personally despise rifle basix triggers. Especially on Savage rifles. If you are not happy I would recommend getting a trigger from "Sharp Shooter Supply" and never look back. They make the best Savage triggers hands down. absolutely nothing compares to them.
They are the "Jewell" triggers for Savage rifles.
 
Not into benchrest so here goes some ignorance -

Can you do free recoil effectively by "squeezing" the trigger with your finger on the trigger (obviously) and thumb on the rear of the trigger guard? I suppose you'd have to be careful not to impart movement elsewhere but it seems like if you confine the movement between thumb and forefinger (equal and opposite) it would accomplish what you're looking for.

Am I missing something?
 
Pinching the trigger and rear of the trigger guard was the best solution next to getting a trigger light enough. I did some testing with that, though, and if you get any side pressure at all on the rear of that trigger guard, it will throw the shots left (for a right handed shooter). It did eliminate the vertical due to the gun sliding back though.
 
I've got a 12oz Basx in one of my Remington varmint/target rifles. It was the first after market trigger I bought about 10 years ago when I didn't know better. It has a very slight amount of creep which is distracting when I'm shooting for groups (in all fairness, I mean very slight). But the worse thing was my calling the company back then and seeking help from a guy named Bob over there (the owner?). The guy was so rude with me over the phone that I was actually caught off guard and in shock for a few moments. It was so unexpected that I was actually speechless.

Thank goodness my Basx days are done......Jewell all the way!
 
As you probably realize the trigger pivot is designed to be installed in two different configurations depending on the pull weight range that you want. Do you have it in the correct configuration for lightest pull? I did the first writeup for the SAV II trigger. It was published as part of an article that included the Shehane Drop In Varmint stock. I had to do some fitting to get mine to work, but was able to do so without to much trouble. The video was my idea. In my conversations with Bob Brasfield, the original owner of the company and developer of the trigger, he told me that he wanted to sell directly to end users, and have directions that they could easily understand, but that due to the more than 20 steps that were involved in the installation, he was concerned that written instructions might not be totally effective. I suggested that since almost everyone had a VHS recorder (This was about 15 years ago.) or a computer, that he should do a video, and make it available as a tape or CD. He did, and although, I had not made a dime off of the video project, that he told me that he had paid a pretty penny to have done, one day he called me, all in a dither, because he was getting 20 phone calls a day from fellows that complained that there was nothing on the CDs that he sent them. It seems that the fellow who had done the video had done the work on a Mac, and the autorun feature did not work for a PC. Anyway, I put him in touch with Wilbur, who got him sorted out, and it went more smoothly from there. This was at a time before it was common to download large video files. These days the instructions can be downloaded for free, and the company in in new hands. If you are having problems, I would give them a call. The fellow that I spoke with recently was very nice.
Getting back to trigger pull, mine was able to be adjusted down to an honest 4 oz. and that combined with the weight of the rifle it was installed on, allowed for free recoil shooting, although in my opinion, shooting that style is a mistake unless the stock design, rifle balance, and rest setup are fully set up for that method. Thinking back, with the trigger set up for the lightest pull range, the increased leverage is gained at the expense of travel, and there was a little smooth creep that went along with that. I don't think that you will be able to rid the trigger of that and still have safe engagement. Understand, I am reaching back a long ways. The creep was small and smooth, and I did not find it a hindrance in to good shooting.
 
I have 3 RB SAV 2 triggers and all work very well. I would buy one again. This is not to say that they are anywhere nearly as good as a jewell. I owned one SSS Evolution trigger. The action had been "timed and trued" by Fred Moreo. It was arguably the worst , other than factory triggers, that I have owned and I would not buy another and would not recommend the trigger or anything by SSS to anyone.

I know that some people have had difficulty with Mr Brasfield. But then, some people have had trouble with Arnold Jewell. Separate the product from the maker. The RB triggers are probably the best available for Savages, although they do need some work now and then.

Rick
 
I have a Rifle Basics on my Rem 700, 22-250 laminated, varmit barrel, set at 1#, 1 oz. has just a bit of creep, but other than that I am very happy with it, best 5 shot group was .3 @ 100, considering the eyes of a 56 yr old, I'm very pleased.
 
When my Accutrigger broke last year I switched to a Rifle Basics. This is on my Dasher bench gun based on a Savage Dual -port action.

That Rifle Basics was trouble installing and following the directions. When I switched the pivot position it set up at about 7 oz. and that was fine for me.

Used it a few times with no issues. Last Saturday the darn thing went off twice on me as I slowly/gently closed the boat.

Going to take things apart again and see what I find. My conclusion is there is NO good trigger available for a Savage.
 
Greyfox said:
....I know that some people have had difficulty with Mr Brasfield. But then, some people have had trouble with Arnold Jewell. Separate the product from the maker.....

Rick




Rick,

I just googled the name Brasfield that you mentioned along with BASX to find out that a guy by the name of Bob Brasfield does indeed own Rifle Basx. So then this very likely was the rude "Bob" that I had spoke to on the phone many years ago that I mentioned in my post above. As far as my dealings with Jewell, I've never personally spoken with Arnold Jewell, but the minor problems I've had with my Jewell AR15 trigger, Tommy over there has always handled well enough.

You know, sometimes it's harder to "seperate the product from the maker" as easily as you may suggest. I can't help but to automatically associate my very unpleasant phone conversation with the Basx name to this day. I can still clearly hear his loud yapping at me and the abrupt bark "Ok?" as as ended the conversation and hung up on me. I swear I did nothing to deserve that, and even asked him politely (and very stunned) "Bob, did I get you on a bad day. Would it be better if I call you back tomorrow instead?"
I guess you never know what is going on in somebody's life....or what stress they are under....but it still left one heck of an impression with me. Thankfully, during the duration of my long life, that kind of rude treatment is exceedinglingly rare and probably constitutes maybe 1% -2% of all dealings I've ever had with all different kinds of business folks and shopkeepers.
 
VaniB.....No, you didn't get him on a bad day....that's his personality........his name should be BRASHfield and I'm sure his sales see the consequences.
 
I wouldn’t give you a hoot-in-hell for a Rifle Basix trigger.

When I bought my youngest his first Rifle, a Savage Model 93 in 17HMR, (pre Accu trigger days) it was terrible. No matter what, there just wasn’t enough that the local gunsmith could be done to fix it and make it right.

The only replacement trigger available was Rifle Basix. He ordered one in and installed but over time it would never hold weight, would go light and become unsafe. Rafle Basix, requested the rifle be sent in for them to look at it. I agreed and off it went…and came back, complete with the same trigger and the same problem. The washed their hands of it and basically said “tough-stuff”. I ended up using LOCTITE on the set screws and haven’t had a problem since.

Companies are always going to have a problem with their product from time-to-time, but the true measure come with how it is addressed. Sometimes, it may not be able to get fixed, but don’t just slam the door (or phone) on them.

Personally, I wouldn’t by nothing from them anymore, even an 8 lb keg of Varget powder. But that’s just me.
 
In case you missed it in my post, he sold the company, and the fellow that I spoke with recently, was a nice guy.
 
Greyfox said:
I have 3 RB SAV 2 triggers and all work very well. I would buy one again. This is not to say that they are anywhere nearly as good as a jewell. I owned one SSS Evolution trigger. The action had been "timed and trued" by Fred Moreo. It was arguably the worst , other than factory triggers, that I have owned and I would not buy another and would not recommend the trigger or anything by SSS to anyone.

I know that some people have had difficulty with Mr Brasfield. But then, some people have had trouble with Arnold Jewell. Separate the product from the maker. The RB triggers are probably the best available for Savages, although they do need some work now and then.

Rick

Ive never tried the Evolution trigger because I never liked the idea of having to send my rifle in for something as simple as a trigger installation. I have had a couple of the SSS "Competition" triggers and loved them. Much easier to get a light safe pull with no creep and minimum over-travel with that "rolling sear" design.

The first rifle basix I bought for a Savage was a complete waste of money. It was the 1.5-3lb model or something like that. It was EXACTLY the same as the factory trigger!!! (non-accutrigger model) and cost me about $100. If anything the adjustment on that new RB trigger was worse. Thought about the lighter RB trigger being discussed here, but read a lot of mixed reviews about it's set-up and reliability. And the varying opinions on this thread follow the same exact pattern as the reviews I read on that trigger. So I will still stay away from it.
 
tjtjwdad said:
I wouldn’t give you a hoot-in-hell for a Rifle Basix trigger.

When I bought my youngest his first Rifle, a Savage Model 93 in 17HMR, (pre Accu trigger days) it was terrible. No matter what, there just wasn’t enough that the local gunsmith could be done to fix it and make it right.

The only replacement trigger available was Rifle Basix. He ordered one in and installed but over time it would never hold weight, would go light and become unsafe. Rafle Basix, requested the rifle be sent in for them to look at it. I agreed and off it went…and came back, complete with the same trigger and the same problem. The washed their hands of it and basically said “tough-stuff”. I ended up using LOCTITE on the set screws and haven’t had a problem since.

Always a good idea to use "blue" Loc-Tite with ANY trigger adjustment screws on ANY rifle. Another thing that works well is women's finger nail paint. Holds very well, but breaks easier if you want to make different adjustments later. I'm always stealing it from the wife to do trigger work :)
 

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