remington "vintage varmint"

[jreedtn]

I was just curious what other peoples opinions would be if remington would come out with a new line of remington 700 rifles and call them the "vintage varmint". Offer them in all the good ole calibers like 222, 22 hornet, 218 bee, & 6mm rem. Put an oil finished walnut stock on it with a 24" heavy sporter barrel. I dont think they could keep them on the shelves! I just got out and shot my 722 in 222 and just thought about how nice it would be to see remington do something like that.

 

[CatShooter]

I was just curious what other peoples opinions would be if remington would come out with a new line of remington 700 rifles and call them the "vintage varmint". Offer them in all the good ole calibers like 222, 22 hornet, 218 bee, & 6mm rem. Put an oil finished walnut stock on it with a 24" heavy sporter barrel. I dont think they could keep them on the shelves! I just got out and shot my 722 in 222 and just thought about how nice it would be to see remington do something like that.

The 700 would not function with the Hornet or Bee, but the others would be nice.

I think that is what the "Classic" is supposed to be.

 

[T 700]

Might as well build a custom for what they would ask for them!

Just look at what they want for the SPS!! Can't even take the time to jewel the bolts any more

I guess that is what is (( COOL ))) now.


T 700

 

[shadrac]

I think your wright they would fly off the shelf

 

[stacy]

I SAID FOR A LONG TIME IF REM. WOULD GO BACK TO MAKING THE 700 ADL IN WOOD STOCKS IN THE PREFERRED VARMINT CAL. THEY COULDN'T KEEP UP PRODUCTION THEY GOT PLENTLY OF STUFF TO DISCONTINUE AND MAKE ROOM

 

[JohnHenry]

I was just curious what other peoples opinions would be if remington would come out with a new line of remington 700 rifles and call them the "vintage varmint". Offer them in all the good ole calibers like 222, 22 hornet, 218 bee, & 6mm rem. Put an oil finished walnut stock on it with a 24" heavy sporter barrel. I dont think they could keep them on the shelves! I just got out and shot my 722 in 222 and just thought about how nice it would be to see remington do something like that.

Is that not what Cooper has essentially done with their Models 38, 21, and 22 Varminters? In the early to mid 90's I visited Cooper with a friend who was trying to broker a deal for Remington(still owned by DuPont at the time) to acquire Cooper. Remington was not interested. Turned out this was just prior to DuPont selling Remington. Cooper's financials were to say the least ugly at the time. Probably what many would like to see are rifles similar to the Coopers at a lower price point.

 

[Webster]

I decided after 35 years of casual BR and GH hunting I would not buy another rifle that was not known for extreme accuracy and good velocity. I won't even look at at caliber because it was popular 50-60 years ago. Why fall in love with a caliber just because it sold well in the 40s & 50s? Many of these calibers were never known for accuracy. This website convinced me to put a 14 twist Krieger 6BR Norma barrel on my rifle. Very small groups for a factory 700 BDL with a new barrel. How could you prefer a 218 Bee over a 6BR? Sorry I like to move forward not backward. I think the factories should offer calibers like the 22 BR, 6BR, 6 Dasher and 6 BRX. Many other great cartridges proven in competition.

 

[jghoghunter]

I decided after 35 years of casual BR and GH hunting I would not buy another rifle that was not known for extreme accuracy and good velocity. I won't even look at at caliber because it was popular 50-60 years ago. Why fall in love with a caliber just because it sold well in the 40s & 50s? Many of these calibers were never known for accuracy. This website convinced me to put a 14 twist Krieger 6BR Norma barrel on my rifle. Very small groups for a factory 700 BDL with a new barrel. How could you prefer a 218 Bee over a 6BR? Sorry I like to move forward not backward. I think the factories should offer calibers like the 22 BR, 6BR, 6 Dasher and 6 BRX. Many other great cartridges proven in competition.

Reason being if I'm only shooting groundhogs out to 200 yards I don't need a 6br. A 218 bee uses 2/3rds less powder than a 6br that gets me about 580 rnds per pound of powder. At 200 yds a good 222 rem is just as accurate as any 6br with a 1/3rd less powder. Sometimes you just don't need all that power. Remember that's your opinion and we all know everyone has a opinion just like something else everyone has!

 

[CatShooter]

How could you prefer a 218 Bee over a 6BR? Sorry I like to move forward not backward. I think the factories should offer calibers like the 22 BR, 6BR, 6 Dasher and 6 BRX. Many other great cartridges proven in competition.

First, if they made comercial versions of the cartridges that you list, they would be just as poor as the other plain cartridges that you are putting down. It is not the cartridfe, it is the difference between custom and mass production.


Second, there is a lot of pleasure in shooting some of those old cartridges - I have a beautiful Ruger #1 in .218 Bee an I get more pleasure on whackin' woodchucks on small farms with it than I would get with my 6mmBR bench rifle...

Same with my 15 pound .220 Swift, and a dozen other classic varmint rifles.

Don't fall into the trap of being a cartridge snob... you will miss out on a lot of fun.

I have more fun shooting in the field than you do ...

 

[jonbearman]

That number 1 has some really nice wood in it Catshooter.

 

[CatShooter]

I am a pushover for nice AAA stocks...

 

[Webster]

OK you only want 200 yards. I guess I would make my choice on case availability, case forming. Do you need a custom barrel ($500)? Without looking the specs up I guess the 218 Bee would have better ballistics than a Hornet. 22 bullets are cheaper than 6MM. Look at VarmintAls website he shoots many of the calibers you are interested in. Great website. Lots of info. I think he will talk to you.

 

[CatShooter]

How could you prefer a 218 Bee over a 6BR? Sorry I like to move forward not backward. I think the factories should offer calibers like the 22 BR, 6BR, 6 Dasher and 6 BRX. Many other great cartridges proven in competition.

Reason being if I'm only shooting groundhogs out to 200 yards I don't need a 6br. A 218 bee uses 2/3rds less powder than a 6br that gets me about 580 rnds per pound of powder. At 200 yds a good 222 rem is just as accurate as any 6br with a 1/3rd less powder. Sometimes you just don't need all that power. Remember that's your opinion and we all know everyone has a opinion just like something else everyone has!

OK you only want 200 yards. I guess I would make my choice on case availability, case forming. Do you need a custom barrel ($500)? Without looking the specs up I guess the 218 Bee would have better ballistics than a Hornet. 22 bullets are cheaper than 6MM. Look at VarmintAls website he shoots many of the calibers you are interested in. Great website. Lots of info. I think he will talk to you.

Don't let that grumpy ol' Webster try to run you off. He's just a party poopin' calibre snob...

... and you don't have to go over to Vermint Al's.. hell, I'll talk to you right here any time.

This is "ACCURATE SHOOTER", Not benchrest central... which means all it needs to be about is accurate rifles or pistols of ANY calibre!!

 

[areaone]

What's not to like about a 222. Accurate, inexpensive to reload and a real pleasure to shoot. I don't intend to shot it a1000 yds or in a hurricane. Past 350 yds I get a little iffy hitting anything smaller than a gallon jug with any caliber. Average shooter can not go wrong with a 222 for any varmints within the average shooters capabilities. JMO

 

[GSPV]

What's not to like about a 222. Accurate, inexpensive to reload and a real pleasure to shoot. I don't intend to shot it a1000 yds or in a hurricane. Past 350 yds I get a little iffy hitting anything smaller than a gallon jug with any caliber. Average shooter can not go wrong with a 222 for any varmints within the average shooters capabilities. JMO

+1

But, I'll never buy another factory rifle as long as I live. Just not interesting enough.

 

[snert]

Blondes, brunettes, redheads...who can chose? But there always seems to be an interest in the next one... ;D

 

[CanusLatransSnpr]

Blondes, brunettes, redheads...who can chose? But there always seems to be an interest in the next one... ;D

My problem Snert is I like them all ! And yes, the next one too

 

[Drop Port]

What's not to like about a 222. Accurate, inexpensive to reload and a real pleasure to shoot. I don't intend to shot it a1000 yds or in a hurricane. Past 350 yds I get a little iffy hitting anything smaller than a gallon jug with any caliber. Average shooter can not go wrong with a 222 for any varmints within the average shooters capabilities. JMO

+1

But, I'll never buy another factory rifle as long as I live. Just not interesting enough.

I felt the same way but found out there are exceptions, such as coming across a 45+ year old rifle new in the box.

 

[shadrac]

that is a nice sako what caliber?

 

[Drop Port]

that is a nice sako what caliber?

1966 Vixen 222, I couldn't resist and glad I didn't.

It shoots sub 1/2 MOA with a stiff load of H-4198 and a 40 V-Max. Perfect for the smaller farms.