Remington 700 action

[22DASHER]

You would probably be surprised since most people who look down their nose at Remingtons don't spend much time with them. I replace the trigger, add a side bolt release, put a good smooth bolt shroud in, and the comment I get most often is "wow, that's had a lot of work done to it" because it operates so smoothly.

At $600 isn't not such a slam dunk deal as it was last year when they had them on sale for $350. Instead of $600, I swap out the bolt and do the work myself.

--Jerry

I have ten customs built off bone stock 700 actions and they shoot very well. I also have quite a few Borden’s. Not dissing stock 700’s...just stating that they will not be close to a good custom simply by changing the bolt and cheap truing job. If you want to buy an action and dump several hundred into it with minimal to no return then so be it. Now of course this is a null issue if you do the work yourself or can get it done cheap.

 

[carlsbad]

22,
I see your point and agree the full truing of an R700 is of questionable cost benefit. I would just say that the difference between customs and Remingtons is generally exaggerated. Maybe I'm underestimating the amount of work I put into each of them.

Jerry

 

[22DASHER]

22,
I see your point and agree the full truing of an R700 is of questionable cost benefit. I would just say that the difference between customs and Remingtons is generally exaggerated. Maybe I'm underestimating the amount of work I put into each of them.

Jerry

I agree with that as well....just depends on what people look for in their actions. I have shot some pretty fancy groups with my stock 700’s.

 

[22DASHER]

I know one thing is for certain.... I would rather have a bone stock 700 than a few customs I have played with latety. Especially for the price of a few.

 

[johnfred1965]

267 is better than ive seen- even though i dont need anymore 700s i may have been forced to buy oneat that price. cheapest way i know likes been said is buy an adl from wally for 378 plus tax and sell the parts you dont need. l was surprised what all the parts from one brought in the classifieds here not long ago. should be able to get the action price down to about 300.00 which is close. im gonna buy a long action and do that soon.

They still have the matte black long action for $275 with bolt and trigger. You have to be careful, they also sell stripped actions for about the same price. For a litttle more, you can pick up a stainless one.

 

[johnfred1965]

I said at the start, I just wanted a cheap 700 action to build a Rem/age rifle. I was going to get a 6.5 TC/U barrel and nut for $300, I have a stock(plastic) and I can get a cheap bottom metal(also plastic) I might end up with $650 invested, on a rifle I put together, and with a custom barrel, it might actually shoot half way decent. Besides, TC might chamber the TC/U, but I sure don't think remington does!

 

[hoz53]

They still have the matte black long action for $275 with bolt and trigger. You have to be careful, they also sell stripped actions for about the same price. For a litttle more, you can pick up a stainless one.

thanks for that info

 

[WSnyder]

Has anyone actually had their hands on a Remington 700 Short Action, ACTION/RECEIVER BODY ONLY that the various vendors have for sale? Same question goes for the long action receiver only. I'm specifically looking for comment on the feed rails and what cartridge family they are actually set up for. One of Brownells replies from tech support states they aren't setup for anything specific which I find hard to believe. Anyway if you have some direct knowledge I'd be curious to hear.

 

[GenePoole]

I bought an "action only" from Brownells a couple of years back to build an F-Class rifle. It was only designated "REGULAR SHORT ACTION CALIBERS"

 

[WSnyder]

Sorry I wasn't totally clear on my question. I've used many of the action only actions. I'm looking for feed rail information on the units being sold as receiver body only. They do not include bolt, trigger, nothing but the bare receiver. Anybody have any feed rail information on these?

https://www.brownells.com/rifle-par...on-carbont-steel-receiver-only-prod81252.aspx

https://www.brownells.com/rifle-par...ion-carbon-steel-receiver-only-prod81253.aspx

 

[GenePoole]

I don't know why they'd be any different as "action only". If you take away the bolt from ANY R700, the only differences in actions are "long" and "short". There may be some minor differences in dimensions as tooling changed over the years, but as far as I know, any R700 off the assembly line on any given day--in any caliber Remington ever made--is identical except for long and short varieties. Admittedly, I've not seen as many as others on this forum, so I'd be happy to be proven wrong.

 

[Dans40X]

Ask Carlsbad as he's an engineer & has had a handfull of receivers in hand in the last couple years.

It's the luck of the draw!
A current production RR serial numbered receiver manufactured in Ilion,NY will be identified by a dot matrix
"Iliion,NY" at 6o'clock in the front receiver ring around the fwd action screw thrd'd hole.
A current production CNC'd receiver out of Alabama will NOT have the dot matrix in the front receiver ring.

In reference to a short action ONLY, since they have bolt face options NOT available w/ long actions-
Feed rails & a scallop as per production runs.
3 feed rail options-
.378" face ctgs,.473" face ctgs,.532" face ctgs.
A "HALF FOOTBALL" shaped scallop is cut in rear receiver rings fwd corner at the aft end of the EJECTION PORT for ctge/brass clearance for all except the .378" face ctgs.

What/which action that gets put into a box is anyone guess, as the shipping/receiving individual doesn't know shit from shineola as there only concern is that the serial numbers match.....which isn't always correct!

edit to add;
The only variances to any receiver's "MEAN" dimensions are the "G" prefix & 3rd generation "S" receivers of 2006/X Mark trigger group introduction.

The LARGEST variable of ANY Remington to include 721/722/600/660/673/Seven/XP-100/XP-100R/700/78/40X lies in the bolt body tube length prior to pinning & induction silver brazing one of the 3 head/bolt lug length options available.

 

[WSnyder]

Gene, I'd assume the short receiver only would be a .473" bolt face receiver with the corresponding feed rails and port cut but you know what you get sometimes when you assume things.

Dan, Thanks for all the info. Just prior to the Ilion NY receivers with the dot matrix location on the front ring they were marking the Ilion units in the bolt handle cutout (I'm sure you know this I'm throwing it out for others).

 

[Dans40X]

Dan, Thanks for all the info. Just prior to the Ilion NY receivers with the dot matrix location on the front ring they were marking the Ilion units in the bolt handle cutout (I'm sure you know this I'm throwing it out for others).[/QUOTE]

WSnyder-
Dating from 2006 to present-
The first dot matrix (square)was at the front action screw hole after a milled flat was machined.
Then the dot matrix in the bolt handle cut.
Then the inscribed Ilion,NY engraving(last hoorah from NY)
Now the Dot Matrix is forward of the serial number RR pre-fix letters.

 

[hoz53]

Dan, Thanks for all the info. Just prior to the Ilion NY receivers with the dot matrix location on the front ring they were marking the Ilion units in the bolt handle cutout (I'm sure you know this I'm throwing it out for others).

WSnyder-
Dating from 2006 to present-
The first dot matrix (square)was at the front action screw hole after a milled flat was machined.
Then the dot matrix in the bolt handle cut.
Then the inscribed Ilion,NY engraving(last hoorah from NY)
Now the Dot Matrix is forward of the serial number RR pre-fix letters.[/QUOTE]
Dan-- so the Ilion RR receivers with the dot matrix are NOT CNC'd - is that correct? thanks

 

[jds holler]

Another question concerning 700 actions.

The bolt on my 40X (probably late seventies period) has a groove in the port-side lug which slides on a small rail on that side of the action. My 222 which is close to the same vintage, does not have this grooved lug or rail.

Is this a 40x thing, or --- what. Grooved 40x bolt would function in either action body, but non-grooved will not work in the 40x. If I wanted to get a small faced bolt to use in the 40x, could non-grooved be modified, or what do I need to look for? I hope I've made myself clear, and at any rate would like to know the terminology of what I'm asking about. jd

 

[Dans40X]

WSnyder-
Dating from 2006 to present-
The first dot matrix (square)was at the front action screw hole after a milled flat was machined.
Then the dot matrix in the bolt handle cut.
Then the inscribed Ilion,NY engraving(last hoorah from NY)
Now the Dot Matrix is forward of the serial number RR pre-fix letters.

Dan-- so the Ilion RR receivers with the dot matrix are NOT CNC'd - is that correct? thanks[/QUOTE]

hoz53-
Correct.
A CNC'd receiver w/dot matrix/scan block fwd of receiver serial number pre-fix letters will be an Alabama
CNC'd receiver.

Another question concerning 700 actions.

The bolt on my 40X (probably late seventies period) has a groove in the port-side lug which slides on a small rail on that side of the action. My 222 which is close to the same vintage, does not have this grooved lug or rail.

Is this a 40x thing, or --- what. Grooved 40x bolt would function in either action body, but non-grooved will not work in the 40x. If I wanted to get a small faced bolt to use in the 40x, could non-grooved be modified, or what do I need to look for? I hope I've made myself clear, and at any rate would like to know the terminology of what I'm asking about. jd

jds holler-
Basically grind the anti bind slot in the bolt lug or purchase a body specific for a722 or early 700 4,5,6 digit bolt.
(reference RH rcvrs)
The Anti Bind slot was cut in the right hand bolt lug beginning w/ late 6 digit/early 7 digit serial numbered 700 bolts of '70-'72 vintage bolt lugs to the introduction of the "A" prefix receivers in '73/'74.
"B","C","D","E","G","RR","S","TT",Seven,673 bolts all have the anti bind slot.

A 40X Center fire receiver is serialized with a SUFFIX letter as they are build 1 at a time by the Custom Shop.
The suffix letter DOES NOT identify the configuration of said action/rifle.

40X rimfire bolts have 721/722 short straight round knob knobs & the receiver serial number letter does not identify it's Bbl length or contour.
40XR rimfire bolts have 700 swept bolt handles.
Of which both handles are pinned to the aft end of the bolt body & then silver brazed to the bolt body.

The largest variable in ANY Rem action is the bolt body TUBE length prior to pinning & induction silver brazing the head to the tube.
Second variable is the changing of the bolt handle designs from the 40's to the present.

With 10,000+ bolts in hand to date since the late 70's/early 80's.
IT's NOT MY FIRST RODEO!

(Yo Carlsbad,100+ of the 10,000+ are personally owned by myself)

 

[jds holler]

Thank you Dan. This 40x is a 22BR, marked 40XBR. 20" barrel. All stock. (I think) I was totally unfamiliar with this anti-bind slot/rail. Looks like any bolt could be modified to work with this action.?? jd

 

[hoz53]

Dan-- so the Ilion RR receivers with the dot matrix are NOT CNC'd - is that correct? thanks

hoz53-
Correct.
A CNC'd receiver w/dot matrix/scan block fwd of receiver serial number pre-fix letters will be an Alabama
CNC'd receiver.




jds holler-
Basically grind the anti bind slot in the bolt lug or purchase a body specific for a722 or early 700 4,5,6 digit bolt.
(reference RH rcvrs)
The Anti Bind slot was cut in the right hand bolt lug beginning w/ late 6 digit/early 7 digit serial numbered 700 bolts of '70-'72 vintage bolt lugs to the introduction of the "A" prefix receivers in '73/'74.
"B","C","D","E","G","RR","S","TT",Seven,673 bolts all have the anti bind slot.

A 40X Center fire receiver is serialized with a SUFFIX letter as they are build 1 at a time by the Custom Shop.
The suffix letter DOES NOT identify the configuration of said action/rifle.

40X rimfire bolts have 721/722 short straight round knob knobs & the receiver serial number letter does not identify it's Bbl length or contour.
40XR rimfire bolts have 700 swept bolt handles.
Of which both handles are pinned to the aft end of the bolt body & then silver brazed to the bolt body.

The largest variable in ANY Rem action is the bolt body TUBE length prior to pinning & induction silver brazing the head to the tube.
Second variable is the changing of the bolt handle designs from the 40's to the present.

With 10,000+ bolts in hand to date since the late 70's/early 80's.
IT's NOT MY FIRST RODEO!

(Yo Carlsbad,100+ of the 10,000+ are personally owned by myself)[/QUOTE]
thanks dan- i should have asked if all dot matrix are ilion actions to begin with but i got it- if the dot matrix is anywhere except in front of the serial number its ilion?