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Reloading scales

I’ve been using a GemPro 250 for several years. I have been fairly happy with it, but thought I would discuss some of its marginal attributes. I’m also intersted if other people have had similar results, found better techniques or moved on to better scales.

Like most, I suppose, I’m looking for consistency and accuracy. Speed would be nice but it’s not my top priority. I use my Gem Pro on a metal workbench that has an MDF top. I place the scale on a foam pad and I slide the RFI trap on the power cord up to the bench top also. It is a level surface. Even though my primary light source is a fluorescent light I haven’t seen any problems with the scale.

There is supposedly a trickling mode for this scale. I just read about it but have not tried it yet.

What I’ve noticed, while this scale reads in .02 gr increments, it is pretty slow to pick up that one last single grain of powder. Many of the powders I use have granules in the .02 neighborhood. The scale often takes 8-10 seconds to register that one grain. I have learned to be patient and not pull the tray off too soon. For this reason, I’ve stopped using a trickler because it will sometimes drop 2-3 granules. AND Since I have 8-10 seconds to wait for the scale to settle, I use a thin metal spoon to manually pick up one powder granule at a time and drop it onto the scale tray.

I do notice some small inconsistencies. There is some drift over time. If I leave for 5 minutes and come back to the bench, the scale will often have drifted .02-.04. I’ve begun hitting the tare button in between each powder charge. This seems to have mostly eliminated drifting issues for each charge.

Anyone found other ways to improve the performance of this scale? Or found another scale which is better? Not sure I’m ready to drop the big coin on the $500+ scales, but someday maybe.
 
I’ve been using a GemPro 250 for several years. I have been fairly happy with it, but thought I would discuss some of its marginal attributes. I’m also intersted if other people have had similar results, found better techniques or moved on to better scales.

Like most, I suppose, I’m looking for consistency and accuracy. Speed would be nice but it’s not my top priority. I use my Gem Pro on a metal workbench that has an MDF top. I place the scale on a foam pad and I slide the RFI trap on the power cord up to the bench top also. It is a level surface. Even though my primary light source is a fluorescent light I haven’t seen any problems with the scale.

There is supposedly a trickling mode for this scale. I just read about it but have not tried it yet.

What I’ve noticed, while this scale reads in .02 gr increments, it is pretty slow to pick up that one last single grain of powder. Many of the powders I use have granules in the .02 neighborhood. The scale often takes 8-10 seconds to register that one grain. I have learned to be patient and not pull the tray off too soon. For this reason, I’ve stopped using a trickler because it will sometimes drop 2-3 granules. AND Since I have 8-10 seconds to wait for the scale to settle, I use a thin metal spoon to manually pick up one powder granule at a time and drop it onto the scale tray.

I do notice some small inconsistencies. There is some drift over time. If I leave for 5 minutes and come back to the bench, the scale will often have drifted .02-.04. I’ve begun hitting the tare button in between each powder charge. This seems to have mostly eliminated drifting issues for each charge.

Anyone found other ways to improve the performance of this scale? Or found another scale which is better? Not sure I’m ready to drop the big coin on the $500+ scales, but someday maybe.
I went thru a few GemPro 250 scales. After a few years they start to drift..
The FX120i is the flavor of the Time . I went to that up grade and have No regrets and a V-3.
They come up for sale at Cambridge a time or two.
 
I went from a GemPro 250 to a Chargemaster 1500 to the FX120i...

I liked the Chargemaster a lot more than the gempro... Mine drifted a lot. The FX is better than both, but 2x the price of the Chargemaster and that's without an autotrickler... Depends on the accuracy you are shooting for. The Chargemaster is pretty good for what it is.
 
I wished I had the GemPro 250, it was replaced by the Co once, and the Co bought it back the second time.
Now, I am using

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I've been using an RCBS Digital Pro since 1999.....mfg by Pact

Been a great unit...knock on wood.....always unplug when not in use

Wonder if similar current units are as reliable ?
 
I was weighing each charge twice. Once on an electronic scale and then on the balance beam. Trickling and tweezing kernels to get the charge right. I went thru a few electronic scales and a couple of balance beam scales. All 3 of the electronic scales have failed in one way or another. The last balance beam stopped zero-ing.
I bought a auto-trickler V4 and am very happy with it. It replaced 5 tools on my bench and shaves an hour off each reloading session. Not to mention better accuracy. Far less powder handling and chances to spill or make mistakes. For me, that was the biggest factor in making the decisions to buy one.
PopCharlie
 
I have a chargemaster lite and lately it’s been bothering me. I loved it when I first got it. It’s still better the the Redding beam scale I used before.

The latest issue is it was having trouble dispensing n565. It would beep saying it reached charge weight even though it was well short of charge weight. Almost like it timed out because it was taking to long to dispense.

The second issue I had is when I pulled some bullets and remeasured my charge weights. The weights were off from what the scale measured when I loaded them. They were off by .1 to .2.

That being said I have not had issues with this effecting velocities or accuracy.

I would upgrade if I had the money.
 
I've been using an RCBS Digital Pro since 1999.....mfg by Pact

Been a great unit...knock on wood.....always unplug when not in use

Wonder if similar current units are as reliable ?
I think I have one like this, except mine said Pact on it. Came as part of the Pact auto trickler and scale combo that would sync to each other. When I moved, some of the parts and power adapters were lost. Still have them in a box somewhere.
 
I was weighing each charge twice. Once on an electronic scale and then on the balance beam. Trickling and tweezing kernels to get the charge right. I went thru a few electronic scales and a couple of balance beam scales. All 3 of the electronic scales have failed in one way or another. The last balance beam stopped zero-ing.
I bought a auto-trickler V4 and am very happy with it. It replaced 5 tools on my bench and shaves an hour off each reloading session. Not to mention better accuracy. Far less powder handling and chances to spill or make mistakes. For me, that was the biggest factor in making the decisions to buy one.
PopCharlie
Some compelling arguments from several people for the FX120 and auto trickler. It definitely seems like a time saver. I sometimes feel like I’m having to finagle accurate powder charges from my Gem Pro. Has anyone seen an improvement in SD when upgrading to another scale?
 
Some compelling arguments from several people for the FX120 and auto trickler. It definitely seems like a time saver. I sometimes feel like I’m having to finagle accurate powder charges from my Gem Pro. Has anyone seen an improvement in SD when upgrading to another scale?
My ES/SD went down by almost half.
PopCharlie
 
Some compelling arguments from several people for the FX120 and auto trickler. It definitely seems like a time saver. I sometimes feel like I’m having to finagle accurate powder charges from my Gem Pro. Has anyone seen an improvement in SD when upgrading to another scale?
Yes. My FX120i and V-3 has given loads with SD in the 3.4 to 4.8 Range .
 
I went from rcbs 10-10 balance to gem pro 250, then tuned the rcbs and went back and forth between the 250 and the 10-10. I now use the fx120i with the little dandy powder trickler and wouldnt think of going back to either one of those..
How well does the Dandy trickler dispense single powder kernels? Right now the V4 auto trickler from CE products has a 6 month wait time.
 
I do notice some small inconsistencies. There is some drift over time. If I leave for 5 minutes and come back to the bench, the scale will often have drifted .02-.04. I’ve begun hitting the tare button in between each powder charge. This seems to have mostly eliminated drifting issues for each charge.
This is THE MOST COMMON PROBLEM with electronic scales! They all drift and if you read the specification it will thell you as much. Some more than others. Standard laboratory practice is to zero (tare) the scale prior to every charge.

Higher end scales such as the Fx-120i have the ability to auto zero each time it detects a return to approximately zero.
 

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