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reloading die help

bozo699

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Hey Guy's,
I have been buying redding and wilson die lately and am very happy with them both.
What do you guy's think of the forster dies?setup,low runout ect. I was thinking of trying a set on my wifes 7mm-08 I am currently using rcbs fl dies and am not happy w/them.Or should I just stay w/redding? Thanks in advance for info.
Wayne.
 
Can't comment on the Redding, but recently got a new set of Forster dies in 6BR.

The bump/bushing die works well. The depriming pin was correctly sized for the 6BR Lapua cases. If you set the die to let the shell holder contact the bottom of the die, you will bump the shoulder in the order of 0.005". Did not measure it accurately, but it was more than I wanted. I set my die so the press ram came short and only bumped the shoulder on my once fired at various loads 0.001" max. I believe this die does not form the body, so you can use the die with the top works removed as a gauge to measure the shoulder bump dimension. The die does not come with an expander ball, but you can buy it as an option. I only planned to use it on the uprimed brass (as they are reported correctly to come tight), but now am considering using it when sizing fired cases. I noticed a very tiny hole drilled off center in the side of the threaded part of the die. There was no mention of it in the instructions, and thought it was a defect. Then by chance when reading the instructions for the standard sizing die, I gather it is to help locate the sizing ball in the correct position to minimize any effect on concentricity. Will have to investigate that further. I just winged the ball position, and may have gotten it wrong. The die sizes fired cases in 6BR from about .270 to .268 using a .267 bushing with two finger pressure (Classic Cast press), and only graphite for lube. I do put extra pressure to be sure the shoulder bumps.

The Ultra Seating die with micrometer scale works well. To get the bad out of the way, the micrometer scale and numbers are kind of grey instead of white and are hard to read in lower light. They also put the zero in the range of travel. I set up for my most common bullet to read zero at the lands. Seemed like a good idea. However, when you go away from zero in one direction the scale is really backwards. I think the die would be more useful with the zero at the bottom, and all loads would be measured at some positive number. But, that may be just the way I set it up. The scale is very repeatable. I've never seen the seating rings on the bullets, using 4 different kinds of Berger. The pressure to seat seems so light compared to my hunting loads, and most of it is the spring loaded bullet guide. I don't measure concentricity, so I can report on that.

The only advantage I can think of with the Redding is that I believe they offer premium bushings -- nitrided boride or something like that. However, I have read threads that say if you grind a bevel on the Redding bushings, then they fit the Forster die.

Hope that helps some. Any questions on issues I forgot to cover, just ask.
 
I have been using Redding and Wilson dies in my custom barreled rifles and they do a great job.You did not state the reason you were dissatisfied with RCBS,but I have used them over the years with good results.I do not have any Forester dies but they get good reviews.You can't go wrong with any of the above. Lightman
 
Pete,
I seem to get less runout with redding sizing dies and wilson seaters than I do w/rcbs dies.I have over one hundred rcbs dies I get a huge disscount on them as I work for the parent co. There tough, easy to adjust and seem to last forever as I have used some of them for 20 years and they were used when I bought them.I am just always trying to better my processes and w/redding and wilson I can see a + difference in my down range results :) I was just wondering what you guy's thought of forster dies, ie, as good as redding/wilson,not as good or just a run of the mill die?
Wayne.
 
bozo699,
If money is burning a hole in your pocket or you just have the itch, go buy yourself a set of the Forster dies. I use Redding and Wilson exclusively in 5 different calibers and am extremely pleased. The runout is especially impressive with the Wilson Bullet Seater Die where the variance is usally no more than .002. Now I've heard Forster are the the top of the line, but I just don't have the wallet for them. Besides, as long as my Redding and especially WIlson dies keep my groups in the .180 - .300 group range (@100 yds), they're certainly good enough for me.
 
Shynloco,
Actually I was looking @ the forster die's because they are over $100 dallars cheaper than the redding compitition type s bushing die's I have been buying. I think the last set of .264 wm dies I bought were $204. I think the forsters are $92. The 7mm-08 is just a hunting rifle I could get by with the rcbs I have but would like somthing different that is quality low runout but not $200.
I agree w/you on the redding/wilson dies I use them on all my precision rifles, and even my long range hunting rifles. After brass prep and first firing I usually see
.0005 - .002 runout with dies mentioned.So I guess we are seeing about the same results. Thanks for your input.
Wayne.
 
Wayne,
I think you just need to go for it and buy the Forster dies and see how they work for the rifle. In my opinion, anything, including Lee, is better than using RCBS dies. When I switched from RCBS to Lee collet dies in a few calibers, I had less run-out and more consistent seating depth. So I am pretty sure you will see some definite improvement if you go with the Forster, as they are miles away better than my $30 Lee dies. Even if they are not quite as good as the Redding dies, they are half the cost. And it is only a hunting rifle after all.

You never know, they could be excellent and end up saving you tons of $$$ on future die purchases.
 
Kenny,
Your right I think I will just order them what the heck. You know I have some of the higher end Lee dies ( the ones in the yellow can not red not green, Yellow) and they work pretty darn good.Hornady use to be good I thought, but I bought a set in .264 wm about a year ago,the sizing die creates runout and the seater die magnifies it even more.Even rcbs isn't that bad.I bought the redding type s competition set and a wilson seater, runout is practicaly gone now!!
Wayne.
 

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