Thinking of trying reloader 22 in a 284 Shehane with 180vld bergers an 30" barrel. Has anyone had any luck with it?
Reloader 22
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JamesnTN said:
For whatever reason, it appears that the slower on the burn rate chart, the dirtier they get. I have not tried RL-33 but RL-25 is as dirty as I have ever seen a powder.. I used to get only about 15 accurate shots with it out of my .300 RUM.. I went to Retumbo and ZERO "dirt" problems..
RL22 should work well for the Shehane.
I do honestly not have experience with that exact combo.
But i have tried it in the 284 briefly, and shot a good deal of Norma MRP in it too, witch essentially is the same powder, it's produced in the same factory and burn rate is within 1-2%.
With heavy bullets and compressed loads it have given good velocity
But the powder is not very clean burning as mentioned above.
It's is also very temperature sensitive, and lot to lot consistency is not excellent.
I have gone over to use other powders, N160 and N165 gives good velocity while being very clean and cool burning.
And the N560 gives me excellent results, and about 100 fps extra over the N1xx, the downside is again added temperature sensitivity.
H4350 and 4831 sc will also give you excellent results.
I do honestly not have experience with that exact combo.
But i have tried it in the 284 briefly, and shot a good deal of Norma MRP in it too, witch essentially is the same powder, it's produced in the same factory and burn rate is within 1-2%.
With heavy bullets and compressed loads it have given good velocity
But the powder is not very clean burning as mentioned above.
It's is also very temperature sensitive, and lot to lot consistency is not excellent.
I have gone over to use other powders, N160 and N165 gives good velocity while being very clean and cool burning.
And the N560 gives me excellent results, and about 100 fps extra over the N1xx, the downside is again added temperature sensitivity.
H4350 and 4831 sc will also give you excellent results.
Reloader 19 & 22 are 2 of my best powders for my 280 AI and 6mm Rem AI. I have never found anything better relative to speed and accuracy.
I suggest one worries more about accuracy and speed than whether it burns dirty or not. My opinion.
I suggest one worries more about accuracy and speed than whether it burns dirty or not. My opinion.
Quickoz said:
When shooting F-Open, there is not time between matches to clean.. Typically, you have "about" 75 rounds for the 3 matches>>> 3 matches x's 20 shots for score + sighters>>> you will run about 75 shots for the day. ALSO, most competitors, including myself, run 25 shots down the bore to: sight in at whatever range (300 / 600 / 1000), get some practice and foul out the bore>>> then run the 3 matches... I do everything in "blocks" of 100. 100 rounds per competition (the 25 for the above stated reasons and 75 the day of competition)... It makes it easier to keep track of everything.. If you try and shoot a very dirty powder like most of the "slower end" of the RL-series, you will find that by match 3 your scores will suffer..
Shooting F open here there is every chance to give a quick clean between ranges once finished shooting then scoring (electronic targets allow that) But more so our format usually involves two ranges shot in the morning, then a lunch break (good for cleaning) then an afternoon shoot and again a chance for more of a major cleaning after the days competition. If you do the experiment its easy to figure out at what ranges how low your first shot is. At 900yds earlier in the year in a major shoot I knew to hold into the 4 ring (our target has an X, 6, 5, 4 as per ICRFRA rules) and my first sighter was an X. From memory I held the next shot in the 6 ring and it landed there. Finished with 60/60 for that range plus a few X's as well.
In Aus, while we can get good powders like H4350 and H4831sc quite freely, we cant get products like wipe out that sit in the bore and clean for us. We have to do all the scrubbing manually so letting carbon sit in a bore and bake on isnt desirable. Too many times I have been caught with a fouled barrel after thinking cleaning at the end of the day will do. To the point where its been detrimental to the barrel. Will be cleaning more often for now.
In Aus, while we can get good powders like H4350 and H4831sc quite freely, we cant get products like wipe out that sit in the bore and clean for us. We have to do all the scrubbing manually so letting carbon sit in a bore and bake on isnt desirable. Too many times I have been caught with a fouled barrel after thinking cleaning at the end of the day will do. To the point where its been detrimental to the barrel. Will be cleaning more often for now.
Shootdots,
So you dont get say 10 mins to give rifle a quick scrub with hoppes no 9 to get majority or carbon and powdet fouling out and give a quick scrub with boretech for copper. You can do both within about 10-15mins. It wont get your barrel bare metal clean but will get majority out. Thats what I do after shooting 2 ranges. Also I know where my first shot off clean barrel will go. At 900m, hold top of V ring and its an X usually. You dont need to foul a barrel to shoot good scores.
So you dont get say 10 mins to give rifle a quick scrub with hoppes no 9 to get majority or carbon and powdet fouling out and give a quick scrub with boretech for copper. You can do both within about 10-15mins. It wont get your barrel bare metal clean but will get majority out. Thats what I do after shooting 2 ranges. Also I know where my first shot off clean barrel will go. At 900m, hold top of V ring and its an X usually. You dont need to foul a barrel to shoot good scores.
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You will have no accuracy based on what??? as stated before I have ran a gun all day with some RL powders. It all has to do with barrel break in and load development. I have a gun that I can go shoot long rang bench rest with and fire say 70-75 rounds, then take it to the range the next day and fire 20-25 more and the accuracy doesn't change. Clean it to bare metal and put 1 fouler down the barrel and it's right back on the money.ShootDots said:
Quickoz said:
Where we shoot, you are lucky to get enough time to use the restroom or get a drink... I use MOST of the time allotted for the match. I doubt there is more than 5 minutes left.. Ask just about any F-Open / F-TR shooter here that shoots 20 shots for record, how much time they have left...
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