reloaded w/wrong primers

[dewey7271]

When you bust a few pins in your die it’ll become obvious

 

[MN50Shooter]

When you bust a few pins in your die it’ll become obvious

No reason he'll "but a few pins". He put berdan primers in a boxer primer pocket. Not the other way around.

Just pull the projectile, dump powder, and use your decapping die, and slowly push the primers out. I would suggest wearing eye/ear protection, for the off chance one detonates on you.

I've used this method for depriming 50 BMG cases, that were new (TZZ-90, Israeli) that were primed in 1990, when new, and sat on shelves in boxes for an unknown amount of time. Possibly 28 years.

 

[Turbulent Turtle]

Sure go ahead. I'm just happy Garandman found a home where people are willing to agree with him. Funny how everybody that is saying do it don't disclaim they made the same mistake as the OP. Safety is free.

I'm always wary of double negatives such as "don't disclaim." One would think that you should read that as "claim," but I'm sure that's not what you're trying to say. In fact, I'm not quite sure WHAT you are trying to say about that.

I have never tried to shove a Berdan primer in a Boxer-primed case. I've never played with Berdan primers, never bought them or used them. Also, I don't know what a garandman is or what its posting history is like. Even if it was wrong in every post it made, that doesn't make the statement that the Berdan primer somehow inserted in a Boxer-type primer pocket will be removed by the same method used to pop out a Boxer primer in a Boxer-primed case, wrong.

If the OP has managed to insert a Boxer primer in a Berdan-primed case and it had not detonated during the shoving contest (remembering that the Boxer-primer is taller than the Berdan primer), the only way to remove that primer would be with a hydraulic primer remover.

But here we are dealing with a Berdan primer (no anvil) shoved in a Boxer-primed case with a single central flash hole. A regular depriming die will work just fine for that.

 

[Shooter13]

I bought a new tool at the gun show that speeds it up. It looks sorta like a pair of wire stripping pliers , but with various rounded notches for different calibers. So you put a shell holder in your press, load a round into it, then grab hold of the bullet with the plier tool, resting the plier on top of the press. Then you raise the press handle, and out comes the bullet. A lot less fiddling around than with the inertia pullers.

Yes, I have one too and love it, makes it so easy when you only need to pull a few, can't use it on a co-ax tho, called a grip and pull, be sure you resize your brass too.

 

[Turbulent Turtle]

Yes, I have one too and love it, makes it so easy when you only need to pull a few, can't use it on a co-ax tho, called a grip and pull, be sure you resize your brass too.

Actually, after you pull a bullet, that's about the only time when it's proper to use a neck sizing die to just reduce the diameter of the neck to get proper neck tension for the next bullet. No need to resize the entire case.

 

[tmwinds]

And don't check the powder level with a laser pointer. You Burn one house down, and they never let you forget it.

I would choot them.

Da won't choot.

 

[Rdlningcltchdmpr]

Da won't choot.

Maybe?

 

[Turbulent Turtle]

And don't check the powder level with a laser pointer. You Burn one house down, and they never let you forget it.

I would choot them.

The first part about the laser pointer was funny. The second part is problematic; without an anvil, they won't detonate.

 

[Rdlningcltchdmpr]

The first part about the laser pointer was funny. The second part is problematic; without an anvil, they won't detonate.

Are you positive?

 

[culpeper]

So, you all are in agreement to wear safety glasses? Just in case?

 

[oley55]

with no intent to play the "holier than thou" card, and being mostly ignorant as to the the appearance of the ignition side of an unfired berdan primer, I would think the absence of the anvil would have been more than obvious, or am I all wet again?

At any rate, break time is over. I gotta get back to work preparing for hurricane Dorian.

 

[danny]

And a Boxer primer decapping die ain’t gonna work on pushing Berdan primers out of those cases.

Or ever work again as intended on Boxer-primed cases if you try it.

Why?

Danny

 

[danny]

When you bust a few pins in your die it’ll become obvious

I have not busted any of my die pins when pushing primers out.

Danny

 

[338 dude]

I bought a new tool at the gun show that speeds it up. It looks sorta like a pair of wire stripping pliers , but with various rounded notches for different calibers. So you put a shell holder in your press, load a round into it, then grab hold of the bullet with the plier tool, resting the plier on top of the press. Then you raise the press handle, and out comes the bullet. A lot less fiddling around than with the inertia pullers.

Grip n pull

I bought a new tool at the gun show that speeds it up. It looks sorta like a pair of wire stripping pliers , but with various rounded notches for different calibers. So you put a shell holder in your press, load a round into it, then grab hold of the bullet with the plier tool, resting the plier on top of the press. Then you raise the press handle, and out comes the bullet. A lot less fiddling around than with the inertia pullers.

grip n pull

 

[oley55]

Grip n Pull vs RCBS collet bullet puller. Looking at this gripper, I can't help but expect this tool to damage or deform the pulled bullet. Not to say that over tightening a collet won't deform a bullet either, but I have seen virtually no deformation in my use.

Anyone have first hand experience with both tools?

 

[danny]

Grip n Pull vs RCBS collet bullet puller. Looking at this gripper, I can't help but expect this tool to damage or deform the pulled bullet. Not to say that over tightening a collet won't deform a bullet either, but I have seen virtually no deformation in my use.

Anyone have first hand experience with both tools?

I have an RCBS Collet puller set which works fantastically. I have seen that makeshift pliers looking thing over the years, which I also would not expect to provide good resullts. There are proper tools that can be procured that can do things in a proper way, and this pliers thing isn't one of those.

Danny

 

[plinker50]

UPDATE: I went to the gun range and tested half a dozen of these bastard rounds. Congrats to those who said they would fail to fire. You were right. Now we know for sure. Going to dismantle and reload those rounds. Glad to know they can be deprimed, I've never tried using a depriming pin on a live primer before. I'll look into the RCBS collet bullet puller, thanks for the tip.

 

[danny]

UPDATE: I went to the gun range and tested half a dozen of these bastard rounds. Congrats to those who said they would fail to fire. You were right. Now we know for sure. Going to dismantle and reload those rounds. Glad to know they can be deprimed, I've never tried using a depriming pin on a live primer before. I'll look into the RCBS collet bullet puller, thanks for the tip.

I have deprimed a goodly number of active primers without an ignition, and this is what others report, BUT, be safe. Wear safety glasses and push the primers out slowly.

Danny

 

[338 dude]

I have an RCBS Collet puller set which works fantastically. I have seen that makeshift pliers looking thing over the years, which I also would not expect to provide good resullts. There are proper tools that can be procured that can do things in a proper way, and this pliers thing isn't one of those.

Danny

Grip and pull works great and by the time I pull 10 bullets with it you would be lucky to pull two with your Collett PullerAnd from your post you say you have seen that pliers looking thing for years so it doesn’t sound to me like you have used one

 

[danny]

Grip and pull works great and by the time I pull 10 bullets with it you would be lucky to pull two with your Collett PullerAnd from your post you say you have seen that pliers looking thing for years so it doesn’t sound to me like you have used one

I haven't, nor would I.

Danny