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[Old Navy]

The USPS needs a new owner. Maybe Amazon. They ship more packages than the postal service.

 

[ebb]

A friend that lives in Tennessee builds custom trucks. Most of his customers are from when he lived here in Florida. One paid him with paypal. They held almost $40,000 and told him they were going to keep it for 6 months to make sure the customer was happy and that the truck did not break down. Paypal invents the rules as it suits them. You modern youngans can support that kind of deceit if you want, I want none of it. I would be happy to use a banking service like this but not thieves.

 

[Knotwild]

I’ve always had good results with forum purchases, general purchases, and shipping. Maybe I should quit while I am ahead. I personally wish I could step back in time and do everything locally.

Doing business with or through big entities means you are at their mercy and the rule of thumb is that the little guy loses - every time.

 

[coldboreshot]

Personal checks or postal M.O's period! In certain cases not the absolute, but I've investigated enough electronic fraud /theft cases to know that electronic exchanges are not a proved science, yet.

 

[Fuj]

I don't hardly sell anything on this site. If I do, I want a US Postal
money order, period. I did have an issue with a buyer that did'nt
like it that way, so the next buyer that came along said, I'll take it
where do I send the money order. Following week later, the first
guy that was giving me the run around, got mad claiming I sold
the item out from under him.....Tough Shitsky as said in old country.
If I'm looking to buy something on this site, You'll get a US postal
money order from me and nothing else, period.

 

[Mark W]

I don't hardly sell anything on this site. If I do, I want a US Postal
money order, period. I did have an issue with a buyer that did'nt
like it that way, so the next buyer that came along said, I'll take it
where do I send the money order. Following week later, the first
guy that was giving me the run around, got mad claiming I sold
the item out from under him.....Tough Shitsky as said in old country.
If I'm looking to buy something on this site, You'll get a US postal
money order from me and nothing else, period.

I have my reasons for never using postal money orders and I’ve passed on plenty of deals when the seller required them as their only acceptable means of payment. It’s safe to say that you and I will never do business and that is fine, but I’m curious why the loyalty to USPS money orders. Not bashing or even disagreeing, just curious as to the perceived benefits.

 

[Mr.Spradlin]

For the wind flags I stopped taking checks for two main reasons.
1st I saw an increase of folks not paying. (I got stiffed 2 times so I shipped after payment at this time) 30 days I canceled orders.

2nd I called a customer who called me to place an order to check on payment so I could ship his order. I was cussed out and chewed up one side and down the other saying thats not how you do business and NO ONE requires payment before product is shipped. In the end he sent the fund then I shipped his order. From that day on all orders are via the web site and no more checks.


M@

 

[Kevin57]

When they sent my wife's diamond, they sent it overnight FedEx buried in a bunch of papers from a fictional law firm. They told me they had never lost a stone. They did not insure it!

If I send a check...I am happy to wait for the seller to see it cleared before shipment. I had a local guy try to give me a bogus cashier's check for a boat sale!!!!! Thats pretty ballsy!

When I get payment I typically send the item. I have never had a problem. I'm so sorry you guys have had problems.

 

[nmkid]

The USPS needs a new owner. Maybe Amazon. They ship more packages than the postal service.

What about the Amazon packages that come through the mail?

 

[Fuj]

I have my reasons for never using postal money orders and I’ve passed on plenty of deals when the seller required them as their only acceptable means of payment. It’s safe to say that you and I will never do business and that is fine, but I’m curious why the loyalty to USPS money orders. Not bashing or even disagreeing, just curious as to the perceived benefits.

Simply put.....Someone try's to screw me over, I have real people I can go to
and look in the eye, and not some Pakistani call center that's a world away.
Anything I put up for sale is always going to be priced to sell so it never matters
if someone does not like terms. It's going down the road shortly anyways......

 

[Geronimo Jim]

Haven't read the entire thread but everything I have bought here has been with a
personal check. Deal with Gold contributors and a personal check and you are
pretty much gonna be 100%. It is a pain to go to the post office AND a pain and long
wait if money order is lost. Checks clear almost immediately......just wait for it to clear
and then ship. ALMOST ALL THE TRANSACTIONS I HAVE DONE....BUYING OR SELLING
................HAVE BEEN SHIPPED IMMEDIATELY BEFORE PAYMENT HAS EVEN ARRIVED.
If you can't trust gun people, who can you trust?

 

[Geronimo Jim]

Also...............lot of phony and counterfeit money orders!

 

[F Class John]

When they sent my wife's diamond, they sent it overnight FedEx buried in a bunch of papers from a fictional law firm. They told me they had never lost a stone. They did not insure it!

It's pretty common in the jewelry industry. I worked for one of the largest jewelry companies in the world and we shipped millions of dollars a week to and from just from our location alone. Not a single one was insured, ever. Actuaries calculated it was cheaper to risk losing a diamond every once in a while compared to the package insurance cost. To be fair, in all the time I worked there, we never had one go missing in transit at my location.

 

[Mark W]

Simply put.....Someone try's to screw me over, I have real people I can go to
and look in the eye, and not some Pakistani call center that's a world away.
Anything I put up for sale is always going to be priced to sell so it never matters
if someone does not like terms. It's going down the road shortly anyways......

Thanks for explaining and good luck. Hopefully you never have to deal with that.

 

[Lee in Texas]

Several years ago, I was buying rifles and parts like they were going out of style. I’m 55 now but it seemed like a lot of the sellers were older than me. Many wanted checks, so I got a checkbook for the first time in probably 15 years, just for guns and gun parts. It was that or my preference; postal money orders.

 

[Mike in Oregon]

Well, I have been humbled by your post's guys. I was worried it was just me getting older. I have decided to do cash, check, MO and Venmo when I'm the seller. And no Venmo when firearms are involved!

Forum Boss: If you use Venmo, it may only be Venmo GOODS and SERVICES with FEES. Venmo F&F is absolutely forbidden for ANY sales.

And, as stated, even with Goods and Services, Venmo may NEVER be used for guns, actions, ammo, powder, primers.

 

[Walt Krafft]

I do not insure packages. I almost always use fedex. Had a few take some long about routes but they always get there. If something is damaged in shipment they will blame the packaging.

 

[mtncwru]

I have my reasons for never using postal money orders and I’ve passed on plenty of deals when the seller required them as their only acceptable means of payment. It’s safe to say that you and I will never do business and that is fine, but I’m curious why the loyalty to USPS money orders. Not bashing or even disagreeing, just curious as to the perceived benefits.

Main thing for me is that I know what a USPS Money Order should look like. Money orders from different places look different, and there's so many fakes out there that it can be hard to check. USPS MO solves that issue.

That said, I don't like to take them for smaller purchases because I can't do online deposit with them -- gotta take them in-person somewhere. I like the extra peace of mind for higher value items that I can't use PayPal or Venmo for, but for small stuff I prefer a check or electronic means.

 

[tommeboy]

Im curious as to why the aversion to checks? I won’t pay with a postal money order, so I don’t ask anyone to pay me with them. I’ve paid with and accepted a lot of checks over the years with zero issues. Unless it’s a purchase of several hundred or more, I don’t even wait for it to clear when it comes from an established member with a good number of positive feedbacks.

I’m not knocking the way you do it, because it obviously works for you. I’m just curious to understand.

I don't have a bank account, that is why. I deal in cash only. A USPS MO I can cash at the PO. That is why. Paypal account is not mine.

 

[jackbrownii]

For those preferring USPS money orders, what about bank cashier's checks?