Question on mount position for bi-pods

[gt40dave]

Ok, new to F/tr - have a question on where to position the bi-pod on the rifle? As far forward as possible, as far rearward - - or like everything else - is it another "tuning" exercise?

Rifle = Savage F/tr, 30 inch bar. Savage stock, adjustable cheek Pc.

Thanks for any help.

Dave H.

 

[noload]

Ok, new to F/tr - have a question on where to position the bi-pod on the rifle? As far forward as possible, as far rearward - - or like everything else - is it another "tuning" exercise?

Rifle = Savage F/tr, 30 inch bar. Savage stock, adjustable cheek Pc.

Thanks for any help.

Dave H.

A Harris can only go where the stud is ...correct. Do you have a mutitude of possibilites ?

 

[gt40dave]

Crap, sorry - forgot to say I'm running a Duplin bi-pod for competition and it's rail mounted - have about 5 - 6" of travel from furthest point foreward.

Dave H.

 

[Dos XX]

I am a fan of as far forward as I can get it.

 

[Scott Harris]

I am a fan of as far forward as I can get it.

+1 There is a reason PR&T uses very long stocks: physics. Putting the bipod further out reduces hop by creating a longer fulcrom to position the weight of the bipod on. This helps to hold the barrel down under recoil...reducing hop. Longer, heavier barrels, longer stocks, bipods pushed further out...all reduce hop. Now that also means the bipod is harder to reach to make adjustments....but I never had a chance with my short arms anyways. Many top F-TR shooters try to lighten up everything else on their rifle in order to use a heavier barrel contour. This is another way to improve rifle tracking under recoil, but follows the same general idea.

A stiff stock is important and that becomes more difficult to achieve as it gets longer. So, there is a limit to how far you can go.

This principle of "levers" also applies to F-Open, but in reverse. In this case, you reduce rifle torque by shortening the fulcrom/lever. Dropping the barrel closer to the front rest bags directly reduces torque by shortening the lever. This is the principle behind "low-rider" stocks. Look up the formula for torque to better understand this idea.

 

[savagedasher]

+1 There is a reason PR&T uses very long stocks: physics. Putting the bipod further out reduces hop by creating a longer fulcrom to position the weight of the bipod on. This helps to hold the barrel down under recoil...reducing hop. Longer, heavier barrels, longer stocks, bipods pushed further out...all reduce hop. Now that also means the bipod is harder to reach to make adjustments....but I never had a chance with my short arms anyways.

A stiff stock is important and that becomes more difficult to achieve as it gets longer. So, there is a limit to how far you can go.

This principle of "levers" also applies to F-Open, but in reverse. In this case, you reduce rifle torque by shortening the fulcrom/lever. Dropping the barrel closer to the front rest bags directly reduces torque by shortening the lever. This is the principle behind "low-rider" stocks. Look up the formula for torque to better understand this idea.

I like my gun to have more rear weight it stays in the rear bag better . Larry

 

[gt40dave]

thanks everyone.

 

[Va Jim]

+1 There is a reason PR&T uses very long stocks: physics. Putting the bipod further out reduces hop by creating a longer fulcrom to position the weight of the bipod on. This helps to hold the barrel down under recoil...reducing hop. Longer, heavier barrels, longer stocks, bipods pushed further out...all reduce hop. Now that also means the bipod is harder to reach to make adjustments....but I never had a chance with my short arms anyways. Many top F-TR shooters try to lighten up everything else on their rifle in order to use a heavier barrel contour. This is another way to improve rifle tracking under recoil, but follows the same general idea.

A stiff stock is important and that becomes more difficult to achieve as it gets longer. So, there is a limit to how far you can go.

This principle of "levers" also applies to F-Open, but in reverse. In this case, you reduce rifle torque by shortening the fulcrom/lever. Dropping the barrel closer to the front rest bags directly reduces torque by shortening the lever. This is the principle behind "low-rider" stocks. Look up the formula for torque to better understand this idea.

Scot says it in the technical terms, I on the other hand prefer the it just works better explanation. If Scott Harris says it works you should probably listen.

Va Jim

 

[Medic505]

Scot says it in the technical terms, I on the other hand prefer the it just works better explanation. If Scott Harris says it works you should probably listen.

Va Jim

I would second what Scott and Jim said. Scott, that has to be the best explanation I've ever read.

 

[RemingtonAI]

I watched a video on here not to long ago where they were presenting the idea that the bipod being placed sight rearward of the front can reduce recoil jump. Guess that would depend on the specifics of the system but I'll be sure to research the principles of levers and the corresponding torque. Sounds interesting.