Question for you 22LR competion shooters
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I have heard good things on athalon scopes I want to look through one.
Only thing I don’t like about my Sightron lll 10-50x60 is not much up and down moa travel in turrets. I can only put the scopes in a Burris z ring or Burris signature rings with the 20 moa inserts and still sight all my guns in at 100 yards. On my 6.5 creedmoor that only gives me about 40-45 total moa if every thing is right on the math. I would really would like 60 moa on the up and down turret but cannot do it and still hold 100 yard zero. I need to find out how these ERA-TAC mounts work. I think that ha their name. Marty
Only thing I don’t like about my Sightron lll 10-50x60 is not much up and down moa travel in turrets. I can only put the scopes in a Burris z ring or Burris signature rings with the 20 moa inserts and still sight all my guns in at 100 yards. On my 6.5 creedmoor that only gives me about 40-45 total moa if every thing is right on the math. I would really would like 60 moa on the up and down turret but cannot do it and still hold 100 yard zero. I need to find out how these ERA-TAC mounts work. I think that ha their name. Marty
I don't want to derail this thread too far off track but be careful of the wording on those "matches". You need to be sure it's a "22LR match" and not a "rimfire match" as the rimfire matches are being dominated by the 17HMR and now the 17WSM. At our local rimfire matches one guy is cleaning house with a $3000 custom 17HMR rifle, can't compete with my Savage 22 bolt gun....
I have a Vortex Viper HS-T 6-24x50 on my 10/22 and a 20 MOA picatenny rail. Use almost all elevation to get to 100 yards. Not enough to make 200 yards.
Can't find a rail more than 20 MOA. Been thinking about the Burris adjustable rings.
Any recommendations?
Sorry to divert the thread.
Can't find a rail more than 20 MOA. Been thinking about the Burris adjustable rings.
Any recommendations?
Sorry to divert the thread.
USMCDOC
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Sir.. you have some serious barrel droop with that rifle!
That's for sure. Have played with it but can't get it out. Green Mountain SS 24" barrel I purchased from a AS member here.
USMCDOC
Silver $$ Contributor
You have something else going on there, I have the same scope on my Ruger American with 0 moa and have no trouble with windage to 200 meters.
I'm surprised they haven't created separate divisions, lol.
OP, the type of scope you need depends on what shooting discipline you are competing in.
Then there is the budget you've imposed upon yourself.
Benchrest - the 10-50 is fine but it's not the most versatile scope around. I sold mine for that reason, and other reasons.
The most versatile riflescopes are the first focal plain scopes. I run a S&B 5-25/H59 on my Anschutz 1827F for NRL22 and other long range 22 endeavors. It's about perfect as an all around scope that I could use for almost any type of shooting I would come across.
One of the best scopes I've had that is affordable is the Athlon Ares BTR 4.5-27x50. Street price is sub $800 and it offers a ton a nice features, including one of the best mil reticles out there regardless of price. It comes in MOA as well.
I plan on buying more of them as $ allows.
I'd almost bet your back ring is not in the slot correctly.
I wish it was that simple. Rings are firmly seated. I have checked and double checked everything. I even added some shims under the front of barrel to compensate for the droop. It help a little, but only got about 2 MOA. I purchased the barrel from an other member. It may have worked on his gun, but it isn't on mine. Could be why it sold for such a low price.
I have tried CCI, Federal, and some others. Get the same results
Thinking about putting the old barrel back on and trying it to see how it varies.
Thinking about putting the old barrel back on and trying it to see how it varies.
I went through a retinal tear/laser barricade in my shooting eye about 7 years ago, it still gives me issues. It is much better now, but i gave up rc car racing damn little black bolts on black chassis were invisible, and ibo bow shooting couldnt see the pins through the peep 50% of the time.
Im using a atlon argos BTR 8-43×56 on my centerfire f open rifle, thinking of putting it on a 22 for winter small bore league. Not a bad scope at all with my junk eye but eye relief can be difficult above 26 to 28 power and clarity starts to fade also.
Papa Charlie. Yep I feel for you. It is a bad deal , like you my detached Retina was in my shooting eye. At least I can see. I woke up with no vision one morning. It is very hard for me to see BDC scope reticles. Circles run together. I am down too 2 of these scopes now. One on my shotgun deer slug gun and one one muzzle loader. But today I took the 3x9 BDC off deer slug gun and put my Nikon monarch 3 5-20x44 on it. I know people with think I am crazy but I just need more power of scope if I want to shoot 100 plus yards. It is there if I want to go to 20x Here in Iowa and IL you can get some long shots if you don’t hunt in big woods like me. I actually have 2 muzzleloaders. Short barrel one with Nikon 3x9 Nikon omega with the BDC and a 26 inch barrel CVA Optima. Going to put a weaver 8-32x50 extreme classic on the CVA for longe range Out west muzzle loader hunting. I bought it cheap a few years ago. Will see if it will hold up to 150 grains of 777 pyrodex powder pellets We’re i hunt out west no trees at all , a lot longercshots with muzzle loader.
On my target guns , sightron 10-50x60 work good for me even the moa-2 reticle. The windage lines are wobbley but I can still see them ok. I had one of my sightron 10-50x60 scopes changed to a wide duplex reticle. Man it is so much better for me. Really brings my eye on target fast ! So much better for me. So surprised more long range shooters don’t use the wide duplex reticle ? I have one more I might change to that reticle. Marty
On my target guns , sightron 10-50x60 work good for me even the moa-2 reticle. The windage lines are wobbley but I can still see them ok. I had one of my sightron 10-50x60 scopes changed to a wide duplex reticle. Man it is so much better for me. Really brings my eye on target fast ! So much better for me. So surprised more long range shooters don’t use the wide duplex reticle ? I have one more I might change to that reticle. Marty
Haven't seen anyone else ask, are you sure your 20 moa rail isnt installed backwards? The thick part of the rail goes toward the back of the rifle. I know very little about 10/22 but cant imagine getting that much droop from a 24" barrel.
USMCDOC
Silver $$ Contributor
You can.. believe it! 1 degree of barrel droop equals 60" of deflection at 100 yards (ie downward impact).. i had a rifle that i sent to Joe Chacon that didn't have barrel droop when it was sent down to him.. but when it was returned.. the scope was topped out and still printing 36 inches low at 50 yards!
I have validated the moa of the rail and the direction. This is not my first rodeo.
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