Question about the NRA National Record Reporting form

[Joe R]

Ok Guys,
Ben Steinsholt (aka ShootDots) was extolling Johnny Ingram's 200-30X feat. What he neglected to mention is that he also set 2 new National records during the same match. Ben scored a 200-18X which are new records in both the Senior (over 60 ) and Police categories. So congratulation to Ben also on his superb accomplishment.

I am a the Statistical Director of Bayou Rifle and it is my duty to file new records with the NRA. I've only been on the job 3 months and this is the first time I have to submit a NRA National Record Reporting form. The match consisted of 3 relays with 20 shots for record for each relay. Is the Course of Fire 20 or 60 shots? There are 37 different categories for the Section 17 (circled in red), it seems to me that the answer should 17.5 (p) but I'm not 100% sure. Anyone done this before that can offer guidance?

Thanks,

Joe

 

[Taildrag15X]

Joe was this shot as 300, 500, 600yds. or all at 300yds.?

 

[savagedasher]

Ok Guys,
Ben Steinsholt (aka ShootDots) was extolling Johnny Ingram's 200-30X feat. What he neglected to mention is that he also set 2 new National records during the same match. Ben scored a 200-18X which are new records in both the Senior (over 60 ) and Police categories. So congratulation to Ben also on his superb accomplishment.

I am a the Statistical Director of Bayou Rifle and it is my duty to file new records with the NRA. I've only been on the job 3 months and this is the first time I have to submit a NRA National Record Reporting form. The match consisted of 3 relays with 20 shots for record for each relay. Is the Course of Fire 20 or 60 shots? There are 37 different categories for the Section 17 (circled in red), it seems to me that the answer should 17.5 (p) but I'm not 100% sure. Anyone done this before that can offer guidance?

Thanks,

Joe

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I think that Bens record was broken at manatee gun club 2 weeks ago with a 200 and19 x by Pat Lundy with a dasher.
Larry

 

[Taildrag15X]

Isn't Pat a Grand Senior?

 

[savagedasher]

Isn't Pat a Grand Senior?

You know better than me . He sure needs the credits. Larry

 

[Joe R]

Joe was this shot as 300, 500, 600yds. or all at 300yds.?

All at 300 yards. The Grans Senior record is 200-20X and belongs to Mike McSwain

Joe

 

[Taildrag15X]

You know better than me . He sure needs the credits. Larry

I tried to look up the 15 shot @ 300 Records he holds to see his Category but can't, the NRA page only lists the 20 shot @ 300 Records now.

 

[savagedasher]

All at 300 yards. The Grans Senior record is 200-20X and belongs to Mike McSwain

Joe

I know nothing about NRA records. But it was a great target . Larry

 

[Taildrag15X]

All at 300 yards. The Grans Senior record is 200-20X and belongs to Mike McSwain

Joe

So to answer your question about listing it as 20 or 60 shots....it would be for 20, each Match, individual, and yes Rule 17.5 (p) would be correct for 20 shots @ 300.

It's been a couple of years since I did paperwork for one of Pat's Records, couldn't remember how old he is.......

 

[Joe R]

So to answer your question about listing it as 20 or 60 shots....it would be for 20, each Match, individual, and yes Rule 17.5 (p) would be correct for 20 shots @ 300.

It's been a couple of years since I did paperwork for one of Pat's Records, couldn't remember how old he is.......

Thanks, I appreciate your confirmation. It helps put my mind at ease when a second opinion concurs.

Joe

 

[Lbart]

Joe,

I have never submited a national record form but I think 17.5(p) is incorrect. 17.5(p) is for prone sling not F-Class. This is out of the January 2015 HP rule book. http://compete.nra.org/documents/pdf/compete/RuleBooks/HPR/hpr-book.pdf

The correct rule I believe is in Section 22 (F-Class Section) and would be 17(a) on page 72

Also insure the correct blocks below your red circle are checked –
i.e. F-Class Open Rifle: check Mid-range Prone

 

[skiutah02]

If you can connect with Scott O. (effendude) on this site, I know that he has submitted a few National Records in the past 2 years. He's a good guy and could likely help you out if you reached out. I'd be willing to guess once he sees this thread he'd make contact, but who knows when that might be.

Drew

 

[effendude]

Joe,
The Nat'l record rule you have circled is the number for the course of fire which had the record set. Each discipline/distance/number of shots has it's own number and sub number. I can look the number up if you can be more descriptive as to what the discipline, distance and course of fire was.

Scott

 

[skiutah02]

Joe,
The Nat'l record rule you have circled is the number for the course of fire which had the record set. Each discipline/distance/number of shots has it's own number and sub number. I can look the number up if you can be more descriptive as to what the discipline, distance and course of fire was.

Scott

Bam. Thanks Scott. Your ears must have been burning...Drew

 

[skibar_tx]

Joe, occasionally a match is listed as 45 shots. Those are typically Palma matches. A Palma match, either mid range or long range, is accumulative of the day's shooting, not an individual string. When you registered your matches for the year with the NRA, your program has to state whether you will be awarding for individual matches or you will be awarding for the accumulative. If you are awarding for the individual matches, and it is a registered match, not an approved match, then you can establish national records.

 

[skibar_tx]

Joe, put "3.4(a)" in that square. That is the rules dealing with F-Open.

 

[Turbulent Turtle]

Bam. Thanks Scott. Your ears must have been burning...Drew

I don't know about his ears, but with this new forum format, I believe that when you type in a screen name preceded by the @ sign, that sends an alert to that screen name that he or she has been quoted and they can look that up PDQ. Also, I think if you click on the Like button or quote someone, you also send an alert. You should have gotten one because I just quoted you.

But I could be wrong.

 

[skiutah02]

I don't know about his ears, but with this new forum format, I believe that when you type in a screen name preceded by the @ sign, that sends an alert to that screen name that he or she has been quoted and they can look that up PDQ. Also, I think if you click on the Like button or quote someone, you also send an alert. You should have gotten one because I just quoted you.

But I could be wrong.

Maybe you'll get two alerts @bayou shooter..hehe...and yes, I got the alert as you indicated. Nice feature. Drew

 

[Turbulent Turtle]

Yep, got the two alerts, but one was for quoting and the second was for liking my post. Nothing about the mention. Hmmm.

 

[Turbulent Turtle]

I checked the settings for alerts and they are set to the default and that includes mentions. So go figure.