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Question about baiting coyotes!

This may seem odd, but I assure you it's true! I've been baiting coyotes with deer and calf carcasses for a couple of years now in Central Kansas. I place them 210 yards from my front door in my creek and have a driveway alarm nearby to wake me up for the action! I use an ATN Thermal Scope on an AR or a .243 Gen II DPMS.
After I place them, they come to the buffet after a couple of days. I suppose they wait to get the human scent off??? The strange question I have is why do they come in for several days and then quit!? I've had deer and calves laying out for over a month and not been touched! I've removed or left dead varmints, but it doesn't seem to make any difference.
Anyone have any ideas!?
Steve McGee
 
Could be your location, too far from easily accessed cover? Or, location too often in the wrong location vs. wind direction? People who bait them here use deer, beaver during trapping season, etc. I would think perhaps location is an issue.
 
remove the driveway alarm and see if they come to it.. I've got same situation going on with me.. They only show up late night. I've had trail cameras up and once they see the light or camera they will not get near the bait.. I usually hunt until about 3 hours past sunset.. They either know I'm watching or don't visit bait until 12-1:00 am.. They are not dumb...
 
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I'm far from being a coyote expert hunter, I just dabble in it for something to do in the winter until I can go ground hog hunting in the spring and summer.

I shot a coyote several years ago while hunting groundhogs. It was about 6:00 PM and I had shot a groundhog that had emerged from a tree line, about 180 yards away. About a half hour later, I saw a head of what I couldn't identify peeking out of the tree line near where the dead hog lay. My first guess was that it was a fox. There are a ton of them in the areas I hunt.

The critter just hung in that tree line for at least 30 minutes then emerged and grabbed the dead ground hog. I was ready and once I identified it was not a fox*, I nailed it. Its pelt was in horrible shape, full of menage.

Of course, this was not an intentional baiting situation but the yote definitely wanted that dead hog. I've shot a ton of ground hogs over the years and never had that happen before or after that incident. Perhaps it was just a chance encounter of a free meal for the yote.

I did post up a few times over a dead cow that the farmer had placed in the field but never saw yote come in. But I wasn't hunting at night either, just early morning.

*PA has a season on foxes these days.
 
5yrs ago the coyotes would clean up a deer in the ditch in 2 nights. I had a lot of luck dragging them back to the crick and doing the same thing you are. Lately the deer will rot in the ditch and they don't come for the bait pile anymore either.
 
They don’t hit bait piles too aggressively during warmer weather and around deer season there are dead deer in almost every road ditch around here. Once it gets cold they’ll get desperate.
 
I don’t know what they are supposed to eat guys, if they can’t eat a rotting carcass. I live in cattle country of that singular use, when it had been used at all, well preceding statehood. Coyotes were here, I don’t know, give or take maybe 100,000 years before cattle? Coyotes are native to the North American habitat.

Across 500 acre pastures, with only one being watched closely with the first calf heifers, calf losses to coyotes are rare, and because total losses from any cause are very low, exactly how rare is good question, maybe actually none some years, and that’s with ~1,000 momma cows. I can say predation is no more frequent since the passing away maybe 8 years ago, of a snowbird trapper that would come down from Maine annually and kill a few dozen over a couple of weeks.

Would I shoot a coyote(s) attacking a calf? Yes, certainly, (haven’t seen that in 20+ years) and I have shot several in the past just for being a coyote that I happened to see, in the act of running away, because I could, but as with a number of things I’ve shot, I wish I hadn’t. So I’m no game angel, myself, but “all this” is going to remain after we are dead, let’s remember, and I have a hard time envisioning that very many guys are solving a coyote problem, let alone going after a “problem” coyote, because I’m around these as much as anyone, and they simply are, shall we say it, canines, going about their natural, justified lives. Baiting brings in animals far exceeding one’s property lines, and what happens when everyone does it.

It’s legal to shoot animals in the country typically right up until it’s too late. Later day buffalo hunters probably sat around the fire - like this, asking each other why bison don’t seem to like the grass in the Great Plains, as much as they used to. Not any one reading this is so young they can’t recall wolves and bald eagles nearly being wiped out, by being shot. I have watched liberal javelina bag limits decimate their numbers, here, and they prey on nothing and are practically inedible. I won’t name one species after another because this is well known. We aren’t all shooting matches just because it’s so darn fun to wreck our guns at a very fast clip, some of us are doing it to save the environment from ourselves, because we would wreak absolute havoc on mother nature, - by the way also shooting up all the animals that “seem” so plentiful right now, but the good thing is there’s plenty of room at the ranges for a quite a few more, for matches, or if you can’t stand missing church, weekday plinking.
 
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I don't know why coyotes don't jump on deer carcasses like one would expect. I've tried baiting them as well and the first night or two I've never seen any success, but the buzzards tend to make fast work of them. Come to think of it, I haven't seen coyotes consume cattle carcasses, either. The buzzards get those, too.
 
We kill lots of feral hogs on our place. The big stinky bastards get wired to a T-post. We run fencing wire through the hocks, tie it down tight to the T-post and slit them open.

I call it "The Meat Tree" and once they start coming in to feed, they are easy pickings.
 
They don’t hit bait piles too aggressively during warmer weather and around deer season there are dead deer in almost every road ditch around here. Once it gets cold they’ll get desperate.
I have noticed and seen this exact same thing in the Dakota's. When the weather changes they get aggressive to stay alive. Until then there is plenty of warm meat in small Varmints to keep them fed and alive. Do you want a hot meal or some cold ass crap thats been laying out for acouple days. If i am starving... I will eat the old cold crap.
 
When I bait for coyotes I try to shoot only single coyotes and don't miss. If you shoot with multiple coyotes on the bait, the ones that get away will not be back.
It has worked great for me over the years. Road killed deer seem to be the best bait in my experience. Happy hunting!
Paul
 
When I bait for coyotes I try to shoot only single coyotes and don't miss. If you shoot with multiple coyotes on the bait, the ones that get away will not be back.
It has worked great for me over the years. Road killed deer seem to be the best bait in my experience. Happy hunting!
Paul
YES, they make a living every day by not making many mistakes and almost never the same mistake twice. At least that's my thinking.
 
YES, they make a living every day by not making many mistakes and almost never the same mistake twice. At least that's my thinking.
When I was in my early 20s I used to spot them with binos sunning in open fields. Dressed all in white I would walk, bend walk, crawl, and low crawl up on them. You see some weird behavior doin that. I once had a yote on its hind legs looking over the top of a mound exposing only his head. Looking for me, but I was 120yds to his flank and smoked his ass. Once, I had a pack of 4 hauling straight at me after I shot a few. They had no clue I was laying in the snow in the white. I ran out of ammo. They got to 10yds and I stood up or they would have runned straight over top of me. I thought about letting them do it for the story telling clout, but I did one of those imaginary scenarios in my head where I get bit. LOL
 
I put bait out in the same locations each winter(for a paraplegic friend). He shoots multiple coyote from each site. It is not unusual for him to shoot more than one the same night. His shooting position is from inside tree groves(from pickup window), out into open fields. I place baits 150-185 yards, as I want a slight rise behind the bait. I believe this gives a second or third coyote a place to run a short distance to and stop, than slowly return to a fallen one. Most of this was started when artificial light/thermal was not legal, so hunting close to full moons on snow. Now we have night vision(legal) so even more shooting opportunities. I usually start baiting with any deer scraps/roadkill I can get. Skinned beaver work. Dead pigs(confinement hogs) work in cold(below zero) weather but you have to open a rear ham. My personal bait preference is skinned muskrat carcasses, frozen in 5 gal bucket as a form(meatcicle). Easy to carry, but impossible for coyote to run off with more than a mouthful in below freezing temps. The next upgrade will be thermal with Bluetooth, than I can sit with him and "watch" the shots. Our current system only records, so we can show each other videos afterwards. I have access to a couple of permanent deer blinds after season, I bait near them. And I have a pop-up I use when a farmer has coyote coming near building sites. I use a propane buddy heater(20 gal) with filter, to stay warm during long below zero night hunts. Not unusual for coyote to change visit times, I use a NON visible flash game camera, and check it in the middle of the day. I need to get a couple cellular ones, probably help even more.
 
Improvements in rifles, optics, night and thermal scopes etc have given hunters a big advantage. Electronic calls have also made it a much easier game. The dumb coyotes are possibly getting shot out. They also learn fast and are smart too.
I usually wait til it's very cold to even bother. Coyotes will probably eat anything they can get to and so I wait til they're hungry. The last time I went out, my boot soles got so cold, they sounded like a snare drum on my snowshoes.
Or maybe you killed all the ones in your area or there are easier pickings carrying off shi-tsus in the nearby housing development
 

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