Prometheus scale- whats the accuracy?

[Jay Christopherson]

So how does the lease work with him? Do you pay for this all up front or pay him in yearly installments?

I paid all up-front. You do get a lease contract as well, that spells out the terms (iirc, you also get to sign and return a copy).

 

[TimP]

So how does the lease work with him? Do you pay for this all up front or pay him in yearly installments?

Unfortunately you pay up front 100%

 

[JamesnTN]

Unfortunately you pay up front 100%

Ok thanks guys. Last I heard they were around 3k is this still so?

 

[TimP]

Ok thanks guys. Last I heard they were around 3k is this still so?

That's what I paid a couple of years ago. Not sure what they cost today.

 

[BigBlueandGoldie]

If you break it down you are looking at a cost of $10.00 per month to use!
If you can afford it go for it you will not regret it. The Prometheus is everything Jay said about it and more.

That's a good way to look at it. If I had more time to shoot, I would definitely have one in the stable. Hopefully he'll still be making them in 30yrs when I plan on retiring!

 

[dixieppc]

Am I right in thinking that at the heart of the Prometheus is just a humble beam scale? (Albeit a good one)

I would be more inclined to call it a "Tuned" Balanced beam scale. Sort of like what Scott Parker does.

Regards,

 

[Judd]

Talked to Brand this morning and put my name on the list...running right at a year on getting machines to you. Depending on options will depend on cost but price closer to 4k than 3k.

First time I've ever spoken to him and I was impressed, seemed like a great guy.

 

[Dusty Stevens]

I wish somebody would sell me a gen 1 while i wait to afford the gen 2

 

[ebb]

There's enough brass in that scale and all the connections to keep the Lapua factory making cases for a week.

 

[dixieppc]

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[brian427cobra]

I had a Gen 1, sold it when my Gen 2 was ready, don't get your panties in wad over the lease, it's no big deal, none of us who have one are b******g about it being a lease. Speed and accuracy are the foundation of the Gen 2, Brand makes everything but the case, and the printed circuit board, the Uniflo is modified, when I picked mine up, Brand was showing me how to use it, 40 grain charges of Varget dispensed in about 10 seconds each had a ES of .006 of a grain for 10 charges, speed and accuracy. I can't seat a round before the next charge is ready, my personnel best is 200 rounds in 1hour 6minutes, some guys have there Gen 2 mounted on top of a Dillon and can do 200 rounds in less than a hour, it does not cut kernels of powder(I see people asking that question), mine has the Varget\H4350 trickler wheel, it works well with IMR4895 and RL15, but IMR4831sc kernels are too big for my wheel, Brand makes other wheels for almost all powders. I shoot targets not groups, the Gen 2 has given me the confidence that my misses are me and not my ammo, so if you can't afford one, I get that, but if you have a safe full of queens with 3500 dollar S&B scopes on them and the cost of a tool has you complaining, maybe this ain't the sport for you.

 

[BigBlueandGoldie]

I had a Gen 1, sold it when my Gen 2 was ready, don't get your panties in wad over the lease, it's no big deal, none of us who have one are b******g about it being a lease. Speed and accuracy are the foundation of the Gen 2, Brand makes everything but the case, and the printed circuit board, the Uniflo is modified, when I picked mine up, Brand was showing me how to use it, 40 grain charges of Varget dispensed in about 10 seconds each had a ES of .006 of a grain for 10 charges, speed and accuracy. I can't seat a round before the next charge is ready, my personnel best is 200 rounds in 1hour 6minutes, some guys have there Gen 2 mounted on top of a Dillon and can do 200 rounds in less than a hour, it does not cut kernels of powder(I see people asking that question), mine has the Varget\H4350 trickler wheel, it works well with IMR4895 and RL15, but IMR4831sc kernels are too big for my wheel, Brand makes other wheels for almost all powders. I shoot targets not groups, the Gen 2 has given me the confidence that my misses are me and not my ammo, so if you can't afford one, I get that, but if you have a safe full of queens with 3500 dollar S&B scopes on them and the cost of a tool has you complaining, maybe this ain't the sport for you.

Out of curiosity, you say you "sold" the gen1; how does that work with the "lease"? Does the new guy have to be approved and he assumes the lease?

 

[Dusty Stevens]

The gen 1 was not a lease

 

[BigBlueandGoldie]

The gen 1 was not a lease

Thanks

 

[Quest-QC]

can one specify how to reach the "maker" ?

thanks

JL

 

[Switchbarrel]

can one specify how to reach the "maker" ?

thanks

JL

See Scott Harris' photos on page 1, Brand's phone number is engraved in the base of the machine.

-Rick

 

[Judd]

brandx375@yahoo.com

If you search the home page you'll hit a page all about it and his contact info is at the bottom of the page.

 

[Quest-QC]

ok thanks

 

[amlevin]

40 grain charges of Varget dispensed in about 10 seconds each had a ES of .006 of a grain for 10 charges,

Did that accuracy in powder charge weights translate to consistency over the chronograph? With that level of precision one would expect ES/SD numbers to be at the absolute minimum, even zero.

 

[Judd]

Did that accuracy in powder charge weights translate to consistency over the chronograph? With that level of precision one would expect ES/SD numbers to be at the absolute minimum, even zero.

I'm loading to the .02 level now and you aren't going to get anymore consistent than that...reason why, that is what a kernel of Varget weighs.

I've seen ES/SD numbers of 1/3 on one of my guns...there are more varibles than just the powder charge that can effect those numbers so I don't think we'll ever get to the point where we see 0. Primers is a place that first comes to mind...we can't control those consistencies like we can on the powder charge.